At 10:44 12-6-01 -0700, Dean Forster wrote:

>** Horrendous irresponsibility with guns still does
>not justify their confiscation or governmental
>regulation.

Why not? If you drive your car irresponsibly, the government can take away 
your car and your driver's license. They do that because you are a danger 
to others. If you are irresponsible with guns, you are also a danger to 
others, so the government has every right to take your gun away from you. 
The government is then doing what they are supposed to do: protect the 
public from dangerous individuals.


>   The solution is, say it with me..  taking
>personal responsibility.  Making it a societal norm.

The idea is nice, but it would take too long before it would become a 
societal norm. If we would start drilling personal responsibility into 
everyone today, it would still take a few generations before it would 
become a societal norm. The alternative is regulation. If we can 
dramatically reduce the number of accidental deaths by guns in two years 
through regulation, or reach that goal in two generations through teaching 
people responsibility, I'm all for regulation.


Jeroen

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