At 17:14 14-6-01 -0700, Dean Forster wrote:
>Hee hee! My country's regulations can beat up your
>country's (state's) regulations. I wasn't bragging, i
>was stating fact. Are you really proud of the red
>tape that law abiding citizens are put through? The
>ability for a police officer to spot check you in your
>home? good lord!
Given the potential danger that results from people having guns in their
house, yes, I think the red tape and checks by the police are a very good
thing. The red tape makes sure that not everyone without a criminal record
can get a gun, and the checks make it possible to enforce our gun laws.
> > >Realistically, the only thing that you can
> > >do to reduce gun violence is restrict law abiding
> > >citizens from having them.
> >
> > No, you can reduce it by strict regulation,
> > enforcing of those regulations,
> > and severe punishments for violation of the
> > regulations. Other countries
> > allow their citizens to legally own guns, but don't
> > have as much gun
> > violence as the US has.
> >
>
>You just agreed with me, you're restricting the rights
>of law abiding citizens.
I'm not completely agreeing with you. You state that you can only reduce
gun violence by restricting law abiding citizens from having them. My point
however is that you can reduce gun violence by *making it difficult* for
law abiding citizens to get a gun.
>And I made a point awhile ago about America and the
>countries of Europe coming from very different angles
>culturally. We're more violent across the board and
>that is what needs to be dealt with. Youthful growing
>pains. Putting all the dangerous things in the closet
>isn't going to improve the situation appreciably, it's
>going to make people angry because it's a needless
>encroachment on their freedoms.
Given the amount of gun violence in the US, it's obvious that if there is
one country that needs much stricter gun control, it's the US.
Jeroen
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