You miss the point entirely Jeroen, look at what he
wrote as a whole.  Darryl responded to what amounted
to a rant with a well reasoned and correct assessment.
 He identified a problem and presented a solution. 
It's obvious that he's going out of his way to offer
what is obliquely constructive criticism- he's not
angry and he's not doing it out of mean spiritedness,
he's honestly trying to help.  He has a healthy
approach where some of us* on the list occasionally
come up lacking.  

dean

*one of which would be me

--- "Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLBD/BGM/SVM/SGM"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Darryl Shannon
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: Geen
> > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Onderwerp: BBC doing online/phone debate on
> Lomborg
> 
> > You have essentially immunized yourself from
> accountability.  You feel
> > you have no need to listen to criticism from
> intellectually dishonest
> > people--like people who disagree with you.  You
> have declared that no
> > one of good will could have an opinion contrary to
> yours.  Therefore
> > people like John cannot be right, or even
> mistaken, but must be evil. 
> > And therefore, you feel obligated to hate and
> despise them.  
> > 
> > But this is causing you severe emotional distress
> since at some level
> > you realize that people like John are not really
> evil.  And that your
> > childish actions are wrong.  Although your logic
> tells you that this
> > is so important that you must treat anyone who
> disagrees with you as
> > evil, you know that behavior like this is
> unacceptable.  You cannot
> > continue to interact with people you believe are
> evil, yet at some
> > level you know they really aren't evil.
> 
> Wow. When did *you* become a psychiatrist?
> 
> 
> > Claiming that misguided people are evil is not the
> behavior of someone
> > who wants to be part of civilization.
> 
> And you think Kristin doesn't want to be part of
> civilisation? Then why
> those IAAMOAC license plates she had?
> 
> 
> > If you continue with this belief you are
> eventually going to support
> > and condone evil actions yourself...all in the
> name of the greater
> > good, of course.  You will end up like the
> extremists from David Brin's
> > Earth who decide to exterminate humanity, or Ted
> Kascinzsky sending
> > bombs in the mail to scientists.  All in the name
> of the greater good.
> > People who believe their opponents cannot be
> acting in good faith are
> > capable of any sort of crime.
> 
> Sheesh, Darryl, could you calm down, please? I know
> you disagree with
> Kristin, and I admit her posts sometimes are rants,
> but you are going too
> far when you say that just because she has such
> strong feelings about this,
> she'll end up committing acts of terrorism...
> 
> I mean, John Giorgis has very strong feelings about
> how wonderful capitalism
> is, but I don't think he'll start killing people who
> disagree with him. I
> have some very strong negative feelings about the
> politics of countries like
> the US or Israel, but that doesn't mean I'll start
> blowing up American or
> Israeli citizens (or their embassies, or whatever).
> 
> 
> Jeroen
> 
>
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