On 13 Sep 2001, at 22:19, Trent Shipley wrote:
> > It was a farce..if they have a state, they don't NEED that right.
> > After all, the whole point is they want a place of their own, right?
> > Why stick on the right of return if you REALLY want peace?
>
> No. Its not a farce.
> Israel and Jews have asserted (and won) claims analogous to a
> right of
> return in Germany and in contries like Poland and the Czeck Republic
AHA! The money side...Yes...fair compensation WAS offered in
exchange for the right to return - in line with international law!
> The Jewish majority in Israel proper was partly secured by a
> policy of
> ethnic cleansing. It resulted in the acquisition of real property
> (land) and improvents to that property. This is entirely leaves out
> the issue of expropriating and enclosing commons that belonged to Arab
> communities for settlement.
No, it was called a war. A war designed to commit Genocide. The West
Bank PROPERLY should return to Jordan! Under internation law, as we
have not officially anexed most of the west bank, it is not ours to give away!
Israel took that land in a war, and Israel - as every country - has a
recognised legitimate security interest.
The proposal was to deal with the de-facto situation - each side
would own the land where there was the majority of their
population, and minorities in those areas would be moved. More
Isralies than Palestians, I might add - and it was AMAZINGLY
unpopular is Israel, and I doubt it will be repeated in a decade.
> result of actions taken by Israel do indeed have a *legal right* to
> return of their rightful property and to take up residence in such
> properties.
No, they can be offered fair compensation instead, which WAS
offered!
> It is hypocritical for Israel to refuse to recognize the legal
> rights of
> the indigenous people of Palestine displaced by the Israeli state.
"indigenous". Right. The Israelie clame predates those of any
surviving people.
> from actually honoring it in practice. It is evident to everyone that
> Israel cannot tolerate the return of any meaningful fraction of the
> displaced who have a right to return. In light of that irreducible
> political reality, Palestinians need to accept reparations in lieu of
> return and Israel need to pay reasonable compensation.
And it WAS offered! That's the thing.
Andy
Dawn Falcon
