<<Holy Ghost, will you people stop being so illogical?  The discussion was 
whether it was possible to conceive of something sufficiently different than 
what existed.>>

No it wasn't. The discussion was how evident such a conception would be to 
the vast majority of contemporaries. Fukuyama was arguing that there is no 
alternative to the triumph of liberal democracy; in fact, there are 
alternatives, in a literal sense, but very few of us can conceive of them 
displacing and replacing liberal capitalist democracy. In the same vein, some 
people in the 1830s could and did conceive of a world without slavery, but 
the vast majority of southerners felt that was nonsensical in addition to 
being abhorrent. 

For Fukuyama to argue that, because he can see no alternative, there IS no 
alternative, is a bit short-sighted. It is an example of what is known as the 
"Whig Interpretation" of history; i.e., that whatever is the dominant culture 
at the time the writer celebrating it is writing, is in some way the 
culmination of what history has been striving toward. But just as an 
Englishman in 1850 could not possibly have imagined that England would 
someday not be the dominant country and as a southern American in 1830 could 
not possibly have imagined that slavery would ever be abolished, so Americans 
on Sept. 10, 2001, could not possibly have imagined that terrorists would 
attack and destroy the World Trade Center. 

To argue that maybe someone did imagine any of these things is being 
excessively literal. 

<<If one person could conceive of it, and could communicate it to others such 
that it was recorded for posterity, that is evidence that it IS possible to 
conceive of something sufficiently different. >>

So what? I can imagine a lot of things, few if any of which are likely to 
happen. All I'm saying is, the fact that most people CAN'T imagine anything 
different is NOT an indication of "the end of history". And THAT'S what this 
discussion has been about.



Tom Beck

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