At 11:14 2-12-01 -0500, Tom Beck wrote:

><< Will we then also be allowed to refer to certain groups of Israelis (and
>individual Israelis) as the evil sons of bitches they are, whenever
>Palestinians get killed? >>
>
>Sigh. Not this again. There's a difference between what the two sides are
>doing, and if you can't (or, in this case, more likely, *WON'T*) see that,
>then there's really no point in our discussing this issue. Because you're
>just another fucking Nazi.

In your own words: Sigh. Not this again.

Tom, what are you trying to accomplish here? If you are trying to polarise 
the Israel/Palestine debate, you are doing an excellent job. Calling anyone 
who shows even a hint of criticism of Israel "a fucking Nazi" does not 
exactly contribute to an increase in mutual understanding.


>Maybe you think
>Jews should just meekly walk into the gas chambers and ovens.

I most certainly do not. I do not believe *anyone* should be persecuted and 
killed for their religious beliefs.


>Scratch an anti-Israel person and you find an
>anti-Semite. Every single time.

Sigh. Not this again. Note that I criticize Israel's politics, not its 
religion. Anti-Semitism means hating Jews; I do not hate Jews (why should 
I?), I disagree with Israel's politics. You might consider that "being 
anti-Israel", but it does not equal anti-Semitism.

If someone is critical of America's politics, does that make a person 
anti-American? I can choose any government in this world, and find 
something about their politics I disagree with. Does that mean I am 
anti-everyone?


Jeroen

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