Mike V. Asked <<Question: Who gave the Jews the right to form modern Israel? My knowledge of the late 20th-century history in the Middle-East is somewhat limited. Did they take the land by right of arms? Did the U.K. finally give in and give it to them? Did God come down and say, "Here, take this land. Oh, those people? Just kick them out, they're not important?" >>
Ilana How long back you want to go? Because, according to Bible your last sentence is pretty good description. If you want 20Th century. After end of UK mandate in Middle East Israel was declared 15-May-1948. Mike <<Did they pay for they land they took?>> Ilana Yes. Mike << Did they pay for the radio station they blew up?>> Ilana No. Mike << When those tanks rolled into the refugee camp, did they make sure to drive around the kids, the tents with sick, the old and slow?>> First - the answer is yes. Second - I think you have a wrong impression of what is "refugee camp" in Israel is. It's, usually, pretty modern city with conditions that are better than some cities in Arab countries that are not refugee camps. Mike <<Don't tell me a kid defeating his home is wrong. When kids are picking up rocks and sticks and attacking soldiers, to me that is a sign that something is VERY wrong with the nation who is sending out the soldiers.>> Ilana <SIGH> You, probably, meant "defending" his home. When kids are picking up rocks and sticks and granades and attacking soldiers, that, usually, means, that somewhere there is a grown up hiding behind them, who either believes they have more chance to survive or simply dies not care. Mike <<Do you need to kill kids to defend Israel?>> Ilana This is war. If kid attacks soldier - soldier has to protect himself. Mike <<IF you want peace, talk to them. If you wish to kill them, kill them. But don't kill kids and call it peace.>> Ilana Nobody calls killing - "peace", although Palestinian call it sometimes "peace talks". Mike <<Don't roll tanks into refugee camps and than complain to me about suicide-bombers. I get enough of that junk from my own Government and their own homemade hypocrisy.>> Ilana You got cause and effect mixed up - Tank entered Ramallah *after* suicide-bombing. Who is your government, pls? Mike <<If you want peace, show us you want peace.>> Ilana How, pls? By agreeing to blow up without any complains? Was tried. Failed. Mike << All you are showing us right now is an animal trapped in a device of its own making, thrashing about in rage and fear, striking out almost at random.>> Ilana No random strikes here. Mike <<Remember the old saying: If you live by the sword...>> Ilana Operative word here is "live". I am for prolonging my life and life of my country by all possible means. Ilana from Israel
