On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:49:02AM +0200, J. van Baardwijk wrote:

> The fact that you consider abortion to be only "distantly related"    
> to what we had to go through, as well as the fact that you deemed it  
> necessary to start discussing it right after we lived through that    
> nightmare, shows that sensititivy is an totally alien concept to      
> you. This was once again proven                                       


Earlier, J. van Baardwijk wrote:

> As I said, it was only an observation. I am not going to refrain from
> making observations merely because some people might consider it
> insensitive.

There seems to be a double standard here, Jeroen. You don't want to
avoid mentioning something simply because it might hurt someone's
feelings (a position that I have, although see caveat below), but you
think others should be sensitive and avoid talking about something?
This is a direct contradiction. No doubt you will try to twist logic
around so that you claim it isn't a contradiction, but it won't
work. You've definitely contradicted yourself.

> I can only see malicious intent from your side here, so I am going to
> stick to what I wrote earlier.

It seemed like a valid point to me. I didn't see any malicious intent.
I think you have made a false accusation, jumping to conclusions in much
the same way JDG did earlier. You two argue more similarly than either
would care to admit.

> No, I am not going to unilaterally decide to unsubscribe you;

That's good. I'm glad you are being responsible about this.

> if you decide not to unsubscribe, however, removing you (either
> temporarily or permanently) might very well become a topic of
> discussion in the very near future.

I sure hope not. I think both you and JDG should think a lot about the
last week or so, and maybe then you both will find a way to be more
interesting and less hostile on the list in the future.

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CAVEAT: I would only have used a Nazi comparison if it was
extraordinarily apt, since I know that it tends to distort a
discussion. I would have tried extremely hard to find another way to
make my point before I would mention the Nazis.

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