Dan Minette wrote:
>
> If my friend could face down the Communist party
> and the KGB, then the excuse that it was the Nazis
> and the SS doesn't hold much water.
>
I don't think it's fair to compare the Communist party
and KGB with the Nazis.

Communism, after all, had become just a corrupt form
of g*vernment, and its officers were as prone to
bribery or flattery as any average normal being.

The Nazis, OTOH, were fanatics, with an evil ideal as
their goal, and nothing could make them change their
minds.

Comparing the Nazi occupation of Europe with, say,
the Canadian occupation of the USA or even the
Communist occupation of the USSR is not a fair
comparison. A reasonable comparison might be the
Taliban occupation of Afghanistan, or [if you want
to use a fictional example] the Prophets' occupation
of the USA in Heinlein's Future History.

Alberto Monteiro

That doesn't square with what I know about either government, Alberto - not
from my friends who grew up in the USSR, nor from those people I've spoken
to (and the many more I've read about) who were under Nazi occupation.  The
Nazi elite were fanatics, surely, but the ordinary bureaucrats who were
running the occupied countries?  They were just guys collecting a paycheck,
as Hannah Arendt so persuasively described.  The USSR, otoh, employed a
level of pervasive surveillance and inquisition that the Nazis never
equalled.  My violin teacher, for example, would tell me stories of how his
family used to gather in the kitchen with the faucets turned on to read
poetry published by the opposition.  The water was turned on because they
were virtually certain that their home was bugged.  Not because he was
prominent or a member of the dissidents - but because _everyone's_ home was
bugged.  The Nazis never achieved, and never even aspired to, that kind of
pervasive monitoring.  They relied upon the essential cooperation of the
populations that they were ruling, while the Soviets never did that.

Gautam

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