<< Actually, even if you counted the Jews, it's probable that proportionately 
the number of Soviet citizens killed by Stalin was higher than the number of 
Germans killed directly by Hitler (as opposed to casualties during the war).  
Stalin is usually estimated at around 20 million >>


I don't want to get into a numbers game, but the figure quoted for Stalin 
cannot be supported by any actual research. Demographers, historians, and 
other researchers have been trying for more than 30 years to come up with 
estimates for how many Soviets and others died in the collectivization, the 
Gulag, etc., and they can't come up with anything even remotely close to 20 
million. The figures that can be supported by research are not even a fifth 
of that. This is NOT a whitewash of Stalin, by the way! However many people 
died is too many. It's just that, for some people, insisting on going with a 
figure that can be documented somehow becomes letting Stalin off the hook 
(like the murder victim's relative who complained, when the killer's sentence 
was commuted from capital punishment to life in prison without the chance for 
parole, that the killer got off "scot-free"). 

If you want to blame Stalin for his part in starting World War II, in which 
uncounted millions perished, then yes, you can increase his death count as 
much as you like. Including Soviets who died during the Nazi invasion and 
occupation because of Stalin's pusillanimity and incompetence. But that's not 
the same thing.

I don't like it when people quote things that aren't true (such as the legend 
of the King of Denmark wearing a Star of David, or the vastly inflated number 
of Stalin's victims) and have been established as not being true or accurate.

It doesn't really matter who killed more, Hitler or Stalin. They were and are 
both among the greatest criminals in the history of a very wicked world. As a 
Jew, I am naturally going to argue that Hitler was worse; but then, Stalin 
was no philo-semite either...



Tom Beck


"I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I didn't realize I'd also 
see the last." - Jerry Pournelle

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