>From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Subject: Re: Scouted: Commentary: Why Europe Sides Against the Jews /    
>tim e.com
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:34:02 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
>On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
>
> > At 10:12 30-04-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> > >In short, there is no indication at all that anyone but you would take
> > >this web site very seriously.  Further, this is a dangerous type of
> > >behavior.  It leads you away from community and forging consensus
> > >towards obsessing on how you were hurt.  Yes, you may dress it up with
> > >other examples, but the idea of providing an objective record of shame
> > >just doesn't hold water.  I strongly suggest that, for your own sake,
> > >you think more about forging bonds to the other people on the list
> > >instead of concentrating on when you think they misbehaved.
> >
> > I find it interesting to see that among the people most opposed to it 
>are
> > the ones who are most likely to make it onto that list...
>
>Maybe the people who are trying to convince you are the people who are
>more likely to be debating you or arguing with you *anyway*.  It's
>entirely possible that there are people out there who don't think it's at
>all constructive, but who don't want to put the effort into trying to
>persuade you that it isn't.
>
>At the rate things are going here, I'm not sure that it's necessarily good
>for the list as a whole for you to pour such energies into this project
>instead of something a little more uniting.  But, it's your life, it's
>your time, and if that's what you want to do with it, that's fine with me,
>at least as long as it doesn't start to impact *my* use of *my* time in
>some way.
>
>       Julia
>

The problem here goes deeper than "is this a waste of Jeroen's time?"

He is once again threatening list members in an effort to silence them.

What he is doing negatively impacts the entire list, and is not appropriate 
behavior for someone who maintains powers over the entire list.

You may disagree with me, but I think he should either stop threatening us 
or step down.  He shouldn't be able to have authority over list members and 
continue to threaten them.   By all means, I'm not trying to silence him 
myself: let him become a list member without the power to banish people and 
he can threaten us all he wants.  Heck, if he steps down, IMO, he can even 
put his "bitch site" website up and do whatever he wants with it.   But he 
absolutely shouldn't be doing so as someone with power over us.

Jon

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