>From: "Jon Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brin-L)
>Subject: Re: Scouted: Commentary: Why Europe Sides Against the Jews / tim 
>e.com
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:52:43 -0400
>
>>From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>Subject: Re: Scouted: Commentary: Why Europe Sides Against the Jews /
>>tim e.com
>>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:34:02 -0500 (CDT)
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
>>
>> > At 10:12 30-04-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
>> >
>> > >In short, there is no indication at all that anyone but you would take
>> > >this web site very seriously.  Further, this is a dangerous type of
>> > >behavior.  It leads you away from community and forging consensus
>> > >towards obsessing on how you were hurt.  Yes, you may dress it up with
>> > >other examples, but the idea of providing an objective record of shame
>> > >just doesn't hold water.  I strongly suggest that, for your own sake,
>> > >you think more about forging bonds to the other people on the list
>> > >instead of concentrating on when you think they misbehaved.
>> >
>> > I find it interesting to see that among the people most opposed to it
>>are
>> > the ones who are most likely to make it onto that list...
>>
>>Maybe the people who are trying to convince you are the people who are
>>more likely to be debating you or arguing with you *anyway*.  It's
>>entirely possible that there are people out there who don't think it's at
>>all constructive, but who don't want to put the effort into trying to
>>persuade you that it isn't.
>>
>>At the rate things are going here, I'm not sure that it's necessarily good
>>for the list as a whole for you to pour such energies into this project
>>instead of something a little more uniting.  But, it's your life, it's
>>your time, and if that's what you want to do with it, that's fine with me,
>>at least as long as it doesn't start to impact *my* use of *my* time in
>>some way.
>>
>>      Julia
>>
>
>The problem here goes deeper than "is this a waste of Jeroen's time?"
>
>He is once again threatening list members in an effort to silence them.
>
>What he is doing negatively impacts the entire list, and is not appropriate
>behavior for someone who maintains powers over the entire list.
>
>You may disagree with me, but I think he should either stop threatening us
>or step down.  He shouldn't be able to have authority over list members and
>continue to threaten them.   By all means, I'm not trying to silence him
>myself: let him become a list member without the power to banish people and
>he can threaten us all he wants.  Heck, if he steps down, IMO, he can even
>put his "bitch site" website up and do whatever he wants with it.   But he
>absolutely shouldn't be doing so as someone with power over us.
>
>Jon

Actually, here's a good question.  Julia and Eileen are listed as co-list 
owners on Brin-l.com.  What exactly is Jeroen's role with Brin-L??  I was 
under the distinct impression from previous posts made to the list on this 
subject that he is a co-owner.  Am I wrong?

Jon


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