> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: maandag 6 mei 2002 4:50 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: TIME OUT Re: And here we go again.
> 2, it really does irk me when you freely talk about the possibility of > booting listmembers or making a "web of shame." > > Marvin Long > > Me: > Actually, I hate to say this, but I have to go farther than that. The > very possibility that such a website will be created makes it very > likely that I will be leaving the list in the very near future. That would be an useless move. See below. > While, as I have stated in the past, I have no fear of anyone judging > my posts in context, the firm that I will be joining is extremely > publicity and controversy averse. Were any supervisor of mine to come > across it, there's no doubt in my mind that I would be immediately > instructed to leave the list, Wow. Can American employers actually do that? Sounds like a violation of some constitutional rights/freedoms to me. What right do they have to meddle with their employees' private life? If an employer can actually demand that an employee unsubscribe from a discussion group (and somehow punish the employee in case of refusal to do so), then that is not an employer I want to work for. If we start allowing such behaviour from employers, sooner or later they are going to tell you which newspapers and books you can and cannot read, which TV shows you can and cannot watch, etcetera. Sounds like The Fool's worst nightmare coming true. > and that I would probably be viewed with disfavor anyways. I have the > highest opinion of McKinsey, but I don't think they'd _care_ about the > details, they just don't like controversy in any form. Even when a Wall of Shame website will not be build, your statements are still available on-line in at least two archives (Yahoogroups and Mail-archive.com, and hopefully someday Brin-L.com). If your supervisor does an Internet search on your name, at least some of those messages will surface. If he then does additional searches at those websites, he will be able to read everything you ever posted. You have a task ahead of you: you will have to contact people at both archives and get them to remove all your messages from their respective websites. You will also have to spend the rest of your career searching on the Web, just in case your posts resurface somewhere sometime. > I simply can't afford to take on that level of risk at this point in my > career when no larger principle seems to be at stake. If your employer can actually demand that you unsubscribe, I looks like there *is* a larger principle at stake: freedom of speech and opinion. Do you really want to work for a company that violates such basic freedoms? Jeroen _________________________________________________________________________ Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com Tom's Photo Gallery: http://tom.vanbaardwijk.com
