On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:43:48PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> > And when people speak of intolerance, but subtly jab certain 
> > listmembers repeatedly because their e-mails "inconvenience" them, 
> > well, it just makes me laugh.

Erik wrote: 
> Do you really not see the difference between expressing an opinion and

> forcing your opinion on someone? Or are you just being cute?

Well, I personally find it quite ironic that two of the most outspoken
proponents of free speech on this list are *also* the most vehemently
anti-html and aggressively & repeatedly demand onlist and off that
people who post in html code change ISPs for the good of the list?
(BTW, IIRC, Erik, you didn't say anything to me offlist, but others did.
They weren't pleasant about it.)  Jim had the same experience I did.

Presenting someone with an ultimatum: demanding that someone change
ISP's for the good of the list or leave _is_ an act of forcing your
opinion on someone.

I believe the main reason that was given for the demand several months
ago was that 'html codes made posts unreadable and unintelligible.'  Yet
Mark's nonsensical posts in plain text suddenly merit such strong
defense?  Jim's _not_ 'being cute.'  He's shining a light on what looks
like a double standard.  

Jim and I both inconvenienced ourselves and changed ISP's 'for the good
of the list' to be polite to those listmembers who had a problem with
it.  Even though our aggressors were being nasty we opted to do what we
felt was civilized.  Now you tell us that it is wrong to hold Mark to
the same standard.

:-(
Jon

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