----- Original Message -----
From: "William T Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: humour etc
> on 22/6/02 2:18 am, Robert Seeberger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chad Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:35 AM
> > Subject: RE: humour etc
> >
> >
> >>> OK....here we go........this is where I tell things one
> >>> normally doesnt talk
> >>> about in a public forum.
> >>>
> >>> I was raised in the Catholic church and went to a Catholic school for
> >>> several years.
> >>> When I was 7 or 8 a new priest came to our parish. One day he
> >>> stopped a
> >>> group of us between classes. He sat me down on his knee and
> >>> put his arm
> >>> around me while he told everyone some story or another. Right
> >>> in front of
> >>> everyone he had his hand on my crotch, but I dont know if
> >>> anyone noticed he
> >>> was fondling me. What no one else could see was that I could feel his
> >>> (enormous to my young mind) boner throbbing against my hip.
> >>>
> >>> Even though I was pretty naiive at that age I knew that this
> >>> was wierd and I
> >>> felt very uncomfortable. This went on 5 or 10 minutes and
> >>> then he sent us
> >>> back to our class. Being the naiive child I was and possessing no
> >>> understanding of what had occured, I promptly forgot about
> >>> the incident.
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me add my own twist on this. I was molested as well, although not
by a
> >> priest - but by a typical pedophile. My thoughts at the time (11 years
> > old)
> >> being raised in a strong religious family was that I could not let
anyone
> >> know that it had happened, because I had been taught that is was the
next
> >> biggest sin next to murder. I hid it, quite well for over a decade. For
> > many
> >> years I felt strongly that I was going to hell. Since I had 'consented'
to
> >> the acts (for months), this made me just as sinful as the pedophile. I
> > lived
> >> a double life, where peers, and religious leaders put trust in me in
> >> important positions, meanwhile knowing that I had committed this
terrible
> >> sin. Every thing I did for the church only made the thought worse. Talk
> >> about a dicotomy. Having been taught as well, that when people die,
they
> > can
> >> then know your history. I was terrified as I spoke to my grandfather
for
> > the
> >> last time as he was dying of cancer, that as I lied to him about how
much
> > I
> >> loved the church, that in weeks, if not days, he would know of the sin
I
> > had
> >> committed.
> >>
> >> Do I really need to describe the real crime here?
> >
> > No you dont. And I can only imagine how that would make you feel with
the
> > current controversy.
> >
> > I'm curious as to how you have dealt with this as an adult.
> >
> >>
> >> Nerd going to Hell (now you know why)
> >>
> > I doubt it. Hell is for *bad* people.
>
> Someone who believes the pernicious nonsense of religion is capable of
*any*
> evil act.
>
> This follows from basic logic. If you insert a false axiom into a system
> ("There is a God" for example) you can then prove *anything at all* to be
> true, and thereby justify any act.
>
> --
Yeah, but religion is just the excuse used to justify what would have been
done anyway.
Its the symptom not the disease.
xponent
Do The Math Maru
rob
