> From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 30 Jun 2002 at 14:32, The Fool wrote: > > > > From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On 29 Jun 2002 at 22:47, The Fool wrote: > > > > > > > The problem is you can fit every single person in the world > > > > (~6,000,000,000) in approximately half the state of Texas. Giving > > > > each the space of about 30ft x 30ft. Before you realize that > > > > people live in families, marriages / children etcetera which > > > > reduces the Total area drastically. Before you also realize the > > > > people can live above one another in apartments and high-rise > > > > skyscrapers. > > > > > > Standard of living. Biosphere. > > > > > > > Those environmental extremists are FULL OF SHIT. > > > > > > No, YOU are. > > > > Prove to me that the entire farmland of the U.S. can't feed a > > population 10x as big as the 6b now living. > > > > Prove to me that 60b people can't fit on the earth. > > > > Prove to me that 99% of all human waste can't be recycled. > > > > Prove to me that the Sun can't provide 100% of all energy needs for a > > 60b population. > > No, the burden of proof on statements like that is ON YOU. If you > want to SPECULATE, because that is what you're doing, on future > technology, then you must prove the viability of these things.
So what you are saying is that you can't or won't back up your statements about world population / etcetera in any way with any data, and are calling for massive genocide, along the lines the holocaust. > I can only apply the criteria we have with MODERN technology, and > what can reasonable be extrapoltaed in the next few years. I CANNOT > stake the Human race on possible developments in technology. > > You're playing with what if's. So that's ours - WHAT IF we DON'T make > those breakthroughs? WHAT IF we can't look beyond the next few years, > and end up in a trap? You are playing with what ifs. > I prefer to look forwards. To use, as we say.. "Today's techologies, > today's soloutions". To present a solotion to every problem rather > than just the problem as the Greeners do. You're lumping us all > together. In what way can't *todays* technologies do any of those things I listed? > I lump you together too, true. I call you "Dangers to the Human > Race". You are the real danger to the human race. You are a cancer, just like the Taliban and the authoritarian dictators who killed hundreds of millions in the past century. > > > Understand that I am Eco Realist (or Eco Nazi to the greens), not a > > > tree hugging backwards-looking utterly unrealistic Greener. > > > > > > But statements like your prove that you don't get the issues, are > > > basically uninformed and are a good reason why this list has gone to > > > hell. > > > > You are an idiot. > > I suggest you take a hard look at the facts. Not extrapolation which > goes FAR beyond the current facts. You are THIS || close to every > single one of your posts going in the trashcan. I look at facts. Where are your facts? > And bringing a lot nearer the day I unsubscribe from Brin-L for good, > because the list is pushing that way. And sounding just like that Kirsten person just before she went.
