On 1 Jul 2002 at 0:23, J. van Baardwijk wrote:

> At 17:08 30-06-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote:
> 
> > > No, the burden of proof on statements like that is ON YOU. If you
> > > want to SPECULATE, because that is what you're doing, on future
> > > technology, then you must prove the viability of these things.
> >
> >So what you are saying is that you can't or won't back up your
> >statements about world population / etcetera in any way with any
> >data, and are calling for massive genocide, along the lines the
> >holocaust.
> 
> I do not recall reading that anywhere in Andy's (or anyone else's)
> posts.

Quite. What I ACTUALLY said was that I'd not like to see the 
sustained world population go much more than 50% above it's current 
level. Lower would be nice, but is highly unlikely.

> > > And bringing a lot nearer the day I unsubscribe from Brin-L for
> > > good, because the list is pushing that way.
> >
> >And sounding just like that Kirsten person just before she went.
> 
> Quit it, guys. If you want to discuss this topic like civilised
> adults, then you are more than welcome to do so on-list. Do not be too
> pushy about precise facts; we are merely exploring an idea here, not
> drawing up the fully-detailed and scientifically-100%-sound plans for
> the actual project.

I'm sorry, I'm supposed to be civil with that piece of shit? No. If 
you don't like my tone to him, your recourse is to ban me, nothing 
under that will have ANY affect on what I call him.
 
> But please please please keep it civilised. If you feel a need to
> resort to namecalling and dirt-throwing, take it off-list. Brin-L has
> seen enough misery in the last few years.

Yes, and I remember WHY. Let's keep the Israel flamewar in mind here. 
I bowed out of ther list for months because of that.

> Thank you for your help in keeping this list a nice place to be.

Time to unsubscribe then I guess. As I said, I've become 
progressively more dissatisfied with Bein-L since the INCIDENT. Some 
of you even know what I mean by that.

Oh, and we should never have let HIM on here in the first place. You 
see him not giving his name as a curiosity, I see it as a threat to 
the list. And I think given his behavoir while he's been on the list 
that that has been FULLY justified.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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