----- Original Message -----
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: Let's Check The Rules, Shall We? (was RE: Demanding change (
was RE: Mmm, mesquite smoky goodness (was Re: (~) Please.)))


> At 13:07 18-07-2002 +0200, I wrote:
>
> > > Then let us kick him from the list and go on our merry way.
> > > I for one want this to end.
> >
> >And then what? What is going to prevent me from coming back?
> >
> >Thanks to free e-mail services like Hotmail, I can get a new address and
> >subscribe from that address faster than the Listowners can unsubscribe me
> >again.
> >
> >And believe me, you will not like what will happen then...
> >
> >Of course, that is not likely to happen, as I do not believe you will
manage
> >to obtain the list consensus needed to kick me off.
>
> All this, of course, assuming you are suggesting kicking *me* off the
list.
> In which case your earlier statement (from July 14, 2002):
>
> >You are a friend, and I value your friendship
>
> ...suddenly (and sadly) sounds like a hollow phrase...   :-(
>
I can understand why you would feel that way. :(

But please understand that you are just one of my friends on this list.
If you insist on being the bad guy on the list you will have to accept that
you are setting us against each other.
I would prefer that it not be this way truely, but if I found my own brother
beating his wife I would set myself to stop him from committing an evil act.
In this sense I feel compelled to oppose you, because I feel that you are
harming many of the good and attractive things about the list.

I know that one way or the other this whole thing will end and things will
be settled, and then all the crap between us will be at an end and we will
be friends again if it pleases you. It would please me.

But until that time comes I will operate with honest intent, according to my
beliefs, and will do my best to pursuade you of the error of your ways until
such a time that we come to an agreement. At that point forgiveness will
reign and while the past will not be forgotten, it can be put aside.

What really amazes me is how easily your wounded pride has pushed aside your
love for your friends here.
And I *know* you care a lot about the people on this list.

xponent
Invisivincible Maru
rob

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