on 15/1/03 8:23 pm, Richard Baker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> William said:
> 
>> Since there is empirical evidence for consciousness, your argument
>> fails.
> 
> There's only heterophenomenological evidence for consciousness - some
> people say they experience it.

There might only be heterophenomenological evidence about the nature of
consciousness, but I think its existence[1] is established on firmer
grounds. Even if the explanation of its nature is that it is a mirage.

>  There's exactly the same kind of
> "evidence" for God.

No, that's just hearsay  :)

> 
> Also, the idea that something doesn't exist if there's no empirical
> evidence for it is necessarily time-sensitive. For example, by that
> argument, neutrinos and the planet Pluto didn't exist in the 19th
> century.

They didn't. [2]

> I suppose an ontology dependent in that way on epistemology is
> quite interesting though.

It is  :)

[1] Of the thing to be explained.
[2] And the planet Pluto may stop existing again in the future since there
is some debate over its status as a planetary body.

-- 
William T Goodall
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tried it.
-- Donald E. Knuth


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