----- Original Message ----- From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections
> At 11:24 AM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >Axis Of Authoritarianism Maru > > Please take your statements of anti-Catholic bigotry to another List, Mr. > Seeberger. Anti Catholic bigotry ? > > Comparing the Catholic Church to the "Axis" and calling it "Authoritarian" > is the sort of hack insult I would only expect from the most virulent of > bigots. The word "Axis" is used in current-day conversation to describe > regimes like Nazi Germany, Al Qaeda, the Communist DPRK, and Baathist Iraq. > The fact that you would even think for a moment to associate the Catholic > Church with the above, frankly makes me sick. For the Vatican (and note that I am differentiating between the Vatican, which is in some ways a foriegn nation, and the American Catholic church) to try to influence *our* elections is wrong. And wrong in exactly the same way as if Russia or France tried to influence our elections. > > The Catholic Church believes that Mr. Kerry is willfully aiding and > abetting the slaughter of 800,000+ innocent American children each year. > If the Catholic Church should really have no rights of "free association" > in this country and should be prohibited from disassociating themselves > from someone whom they believe is guilty of openly promoting and condoning > these murders, then the only authoritarian around here is you, Mr. > Seeberger. It seems that you would deny Catholics and the Catholic Church > this most basic of American rights. O.k., maybe you would not actually > deny them these rights, but the fact that you would use such absolutely > sickening insults to describe the free exercise of this right would seem to > speak volumes. Your penchant for jumping to weird and extreme conclusions is getting the better of you. I posted "news" that the Vatican and individuals *controlled* by the Vatican are involving themselves in our election. You try to conflate that with some sort of anti-Catholic bigotry on my part. Since you are so well informed, you tell the list. How long I went to Catholic schools? How many years I was an altar boy? What it is I believe? I think you discount just how much my Catholic upbringing influences my thinking. And how much that same upbringing makes fundementalism repugnant to me. > > To put it simply, your comments, Mr. Seeberger are a shameful return to the > old bigotry of "Catholics Need Not Apply" and accusations of "popery." To > quote the opening sentence of your article: > "The last time a major political party put forward a Roman Catholic > candidate for President, he had to confront bigotry...." > > Actually, I guess that he still does.... > Of course! You are not going to vote for the Catholic and I am. And you will have plenty of bad things to say about him. That much is predictable. xponent He Shot First And Never Bothered To Ask Questions Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
