----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:05 AM Subject: Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 09:45:53AM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > > > In the first household, the 15 year old girl is required to do chores > > around the house (vacuum, clean toilets, mop the kitchen floor) for > > about two hours a week. In the second, she is required to have sex > > with her step-father 2 times a week, taking half an hour each time. > > In both cases, she'd rather be doing something else. Is there any > > difference? > > Darn that mental block! Maybe its not religious in this case. But Dan, > you are the only one that is making a big issue about forcing females to > have sex. I was trying to illustrate that performing sex is not the same as, say, cleaning a toilet. I was hoping that an example would be helpful. One would think why forcing someone to clean a toilet is quite different from forcing someone to have sex...that there is an inherent difference in the acts. Sex is tied to one's emotions, to one's sense of self in a way that cleaning toilets, flipping burgers, raking yards, going down coal mines, etc. are not. I was trying to give illustrations why. That's not just my opinion.from what I've read there's a fairly strong consensus in the mental health field on that. It's interesting that you comments on my mental block. I have tried to support my arguments with data. The data are dismissed out of hand. IMHO, it's because its inconsistent with presuppositions. It is true that one does not have proof in areas like sociology and history as one does in physics. Thus, one needs to either make judgments without absolute proof of causality, or withhold judgment on most of the issues in the field. It's amazing that things that I've both read in literature and seen personally on repeated occasions are dismissed as examples of a mental block, without counter examples being given. Let me give one more study, with lotsa references: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p0410s07.html I've checked this magazine, and it appears to be quoted by websites that are general mental health websites (with links to continuing education seminars on bipolar disorder and such). This article, which clearly has an advocacy point of view, does cite a wealth of studies. This paper is pretty indicative of what I've read over the years. Now that prostitution has become legal in other countries, it would be very worthwhile to see studies that show the changes in the countries where it has been legalized. In this paper, studies that indicate that the differences are minimal are cited. Are there studies that show tremendous differences between the life of prostitutes in Germany and the Netherlands and those in the US? Are there, at least, web available articles that quote a similar range of studies that shows that legalization decreases these problems with prostitution? BTW, I'm not arguing either against/for legalization here. I'm arguing that one should now be seeing marked differences between prostitutes in the US and Germany/Netherlands as a result of legalization if the source of the difficulties experienced by prostitutes is fundamentally the law against prostitution. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
