>Warren wrote (?)
>"Boldly proclaiming certainty"? Oh really? I thought all I did was 
>suggest that the current admin had to be fairly dim not to have learned 
>from history.

>>Dan wrote (?)
>>> To the earlier exchange, I think the question's pretty clear: How is 
>>> it that so many people seem not to have learned from history?
>>>
>> Before learning from history, it's worthwhile to understand just what 
>> the lessons of history are.

>Um, that *is* learning from history. What you basically just said is 
>that in order to learn from history you have to learn from history. I 
>won't disagree with the tautology, but as arguments go it's not the 
>best. ;)

>> The lessons we can learn from Viet Nam would be a
>> facinating source of discussion.  I think it is also a field where 
>> honest,
>> reasonable people can still differ greatly.

Later someone said
>>>> Are you arguing that there is no such thing as scholarship in 
>>> history, foreign affairs, and political science?

A bit of "stream of consciousness" helped me to recall
a bit of info, I don't know if it will help the discussion...

The War College may be the best place to learn 
"military" lessons from Vietnam.  I would tend to
think the "political" lessons are more varied and 
discussed in academia throughout the country.  
While they are related historical lessons, they may 
not always be one in the same, as there is rarely 
a single question or goal, but a "campaign".

Dee 
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