----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons


> On May 12, 2005, at 9:01 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> >> We propped up, supported and paid a dictator in Panama. When he began
> >> not
> >> following orders Reagan ordered him removed.
> >
> > Actually, Bush was in power...I mentioned it because the timing is
> > actually
> > important.
>
> I thought the reference was to Roosevelt and Panama:
>
> <http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h932.html>
>
> Not to anything the US did in recent years. When referring to an area
> in which we have more than one historical effect, it doesn't hurt to
> specify which historical effect you're thinking of rather than listing
> off a long roll of names.

Sorry, I thought that it was clear that it wasn't Rossevelt because he
didn't do that.  Every example was post WWII.

>It's a little like not distinguishing between  western Europe and mainland
Europe...

Well, I was thinking of the US sphere of influence in Europe.  It was
Western Europe.  I said mainland later because the UK and Ireland were not
invaded by the Germans during WWII, and were not candidates for US nation
building after the war.

I'd also be more than happy to exclude the sphere of influence of the US
that was not in Western Europe, but in Europe, such as Greece and (sorta)
Turkey.  With I used both terms, I was thinking of Europe, west of the Iron
Curtain, excluding GB and Ireland. The Nordic countries were included in
both cases. But, I can see how my terms might have been unclear.

Dan M.


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