--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's no question that we are walking > > right up to the line, and a decently strong case that we are crossing > > that line, but I'm not sure that any previous generation has > > hestitated > > to walk right up to the line and occasionally cross it in times of > > threat either. > > So people were wrong before, and that justifies being wrong now? And > you wonder why we're looking on in horror from elsewhere in the world.
You are jumping into the middle of the conversation and drawing completely the wrong conclusions. At no point have I argued that torture was justified, nor have I even so much as argued that the Bush Administration's policies in regards to treatment of prisoners was justified. The subject of conversation was someone making the case that Americans were reacting to the current threat in a way that was more panicked, more fear-stricken, and less noble than the way Americans had reacted to threats in the past. I'm simply pointing out that that is a very tough case to make given some of America's reactions to past threats. JDG - Who has never imagined that he could take so much grief for criticizing the United States on this List.... _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
