Hey everyone, I dont normally jump in on these 'discussions' but here I go.
I coach Juniors. The first gap I have to bridge is yes Ultimate is a sport. The next gap is that ultimate is not played by a bunch of people with their heads up their backsides who only care about the sport they play (like for instance the average footballer - for the record I also play football!) In fact I encourage all my players to go and support all the other teams in the college when they are playing. I thought ultimate was meant to be based on spirit, and that means spirit in sport not just behind closed doors in our own little world! Constantly my players are jibed (nice word!!) about the sport they have chosen to play but instead of give as good as they get I try to encourage them to show the other sports people that there is another way (now this is sounding a little cheesey but I hope you get my meaning). No I dont think that a football tournament would hault to watch a Ultimate match but that is my point! We hosted the Outdoor Junior Nationals last year. It was a huge success (I guess you would need to check with others that attended to see if that statement is in fact true!) And guess what, we scheduled in a football match, even played it on a massive cinema size screen! Not everyone wanted to watch it but most did. Having this break didnt effect the tournament and I think that everyone was happy with it happening. The long and short of it is that I agree with Berry7. The choice should be there. Lets not be like the narrow minded people out there in the rest of the sport, lets stand up and be different. Lets not be isolated and have this situation where everyone is saying "my sport is the best, yours is rubbish" (anyone picturing a primary school playground??) Anyways just my thoughts Smudge > how about a pickup game for those that would rather throw some plastic > around than watch some people kick a bag of air around?? > > > > On 5/17/07, Dan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Anyway. Where was I? The situation with the FA cup is at least fair. If >> you want it to watch it then you can and if you don't, speak to the >> other team captain and play earlier. Which despite all my ramblings is >> exactly what we will be doing. I will be foregoing the FA cup to play >> earlier (with the TD's permission of course...). But it is nice to have >> that choice. All about the choice! In this case though I, like you, >> chose frisbee. >> You learn something new every day! >> >> Berry7. >> >> Flaming Galahs/Nottingham Forest/Idiot. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of David Grayson >> Sent: 17 May 2007 09:01 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [BD] Schedules >> >> While we're on the subject of schedules. Does anyone want to speak up >> in favour of the MT2 schedule? >> >> Why on earth do we have a 75 min break in the schedule for "Lunch"? Is >> something being laid on? Is it because it was written by someone's >> mother and they are worried we wont eat properly? >> >> Here's my guess. It was written under the pressure of the "it must be >> fair" brigade. These idiots are obsessed with the concept of fairness >> to all teams at tournaments. They want every team to play the exact >> number of games, have equal chance to win the tournament, have every >> team play on the same fields as each other, pay the same amount per >> point played, eat lunch at the same time, have same rostor rules etc. >> etc. >> >> This brigade are idiots and they are slowly ruining our sport. >> >> Having schedules where everyone plays at the same time means that there >> are large swathes of the tournament where there is NOTHING happening. >> There are no games to go and watch, you can't heckle anyone, you cant >> get better by watching ultimate. It also means that if the sport were >> ever to get publicity and people would come to watch they would find >> nothing happening for long periods, get bored and disappear. >> >> And ffs I thought we had dumped this ridiculous idea of having a break >> for a fricking football match. How many people honestly care about the >> FA cup final? I can think of only one, and he probably wont have wifi >> so its no use to him. "OOh but its Man U v Chelsea, ooh its at the >> neeeew Wembley, oooh but..." STOP. You have been taken in by the >> phoney hype designed to make you part with your money for something >> utterly irrelevant. As a sport we should be doing a service to idiots >> like you and showing you some tough love. Cold turkey chaps, its the >> best thing for you. If football is so important then go watch it and >> your teammates will win your match for you, lets face it you're probably >> the type of player who disappears with a winjury every few minutes >> anyway. Your mates will understand. >> >> Ok, lets imagine that a large percentage of the tournament do care about >> this pointless event. What is going to happen? They're going to have >> to go and warm up during the game and miss a the end anyway! Lets go >> wild and imagine for a second that its an exciting game. If so then >> people will miss the exciting part, the extra time and the inevitable >> penalties. >> >> Ridiculous. I'm making an offer now to High Altitude, lets say sod the >> football, play early and all go and have a beer while the chumps play >> off in the twilight getting cramp and grumbling about how it really >> wasn't a penalty, corner, streaker etc... I have no idea how many on my >> team will agree to it but at least we'll find out how many idiots I play >> with. >> >> Or an offer to everyone in the tournament - Lets rebel. Come on folks, >> this is supposed to be an antiestablishment sport. NOTHING is more >> establishment than the FA freaking cup final. Lets have round 3 from >> 12.30 -1.45 and round 4 from 2.15 - 3.30. Then you'll only miss the >> first half, and we can all have a beer and watch the thrill/sideshow of >> penalities together like the one happy proletariat we are. Whats the >> problem with that? >> >> In the olden days, schedules were written to make the most of pitch >> time, provide entertainment for teams and spectators and to provide >> logical and practical scheduling for teams. I think we should have >> staggered game slots, semi finals played at different times (cos they >> are the best games of the tournament) and a general agreement that if >> you get screwed by the seedings/schedule then you are allowed a good >> whine on Britdisc. I agree that is at least your right. >> >> Dave. >> >> PS. I made a promise not to be grumpy this weekend but I fear I may >> have already lost that particular battle. >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> BritDisc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> BritDisc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed >> > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
