Alternatively just text in your spirit and scores after each game and nick the disc...
I'd be happy enough with that. All problems solved. Dan. My views and probably not those of my co TD who is likely paying for the discs... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Harras Sent: 22 August 2007 01:55 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BD] Spirit of the Game(a plan) Everyone has used the trollies at the supermarket where you have to put a pound in to get a trolley. If you want your pound back you take the trolley back to the other trollies and voilla! To play ultimate you have to have a game disk(and a spare), what about having two official game disks(per pitch) as the responsibility of each team(one per team(if you don't bring a disk you cant play and thus forfeit the game)), these disks are picked up from HQ by each team(signed for!)at the beginning of the game and returned to HQ after each game one disk being the responsibility of each team. Benefits(mainly for the organisers) 1. you have to have both disks to start the game as you can only do the toss with official disks. 2. you have a spare if, you hoof, spike or spoon one. 3 when you sign it back in you put in your score, spirit vote. 4. if you don't bring it back you'll be in trouble and we'll know who you and your team are. 5. its another perfect job any team JTM can do. Cons 1. The JTM wont like it. hope your all enjoying you great summer Adam (down under) On 22 Aug 2007, at 01:12, Russell Parr wrote: > The BULA system as used at tournaments like Beachfest is a ten point > system that clearly defines the score and removes the issues of it > being the team's judgment. However, the issue at hand is more one of > getting people to report spirit, not how they come up with the score > itself - by definition spirit is always going to be a matter of > judgment. I'm of the opinion that if you start giving six / ten / > whatever point frameworks on which to score teams, you'll only make it > more arduous for teams and therefore discourage regular reporting of > scores. > > Reporting of spirit is the job of the team captain, be it at the end > of each game or (more practically) the end of each day of competition. > It's not a particularly challenging thing to do and any team captain > who doesn't either report the spirit score or ask a team member to do > it is simply being lazy - no excuse. TDs are making admirable steps to > make it easier but ultimately I don't see why people can't just get > off their arse to do something that they know full well is an integral > part of playing a tournament. > > Pablo > -- 3 -- > Flaming Galahs > > P.S. Personal views and not those of my team, natch. > > > On 8/21/07, Dan Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I really like the system Kevin mentions. There are two main systems, >> picking three teams and awarding them 1st, 2nd and 3rd places, or >> judging each team you've played out of 10. >> >> The first system is weak because you're judging a team against the >> others you've played, not against a clear cut idea of what spirit is. >> It's entirely subjective. One team can get a good score for playing >> acceptably, as long as the other teams you played were unspirited. It >> also doesn't account for how much more spirited one team compared to >> another. >> >> The second system (1 to 10 points per team) is also slightly weak >> because not all the teams will judge spirit in the same way. Some >> teams will much more "party" in their spirit allocation and will give >> points to teams who were the most fun. I've been a member of teams >> and watched us give one team a good spirit vote because they wore >> fancy dress and threw stupid throws. >> >> The strengths of the system Kevin promotes is that it (1) clearly >> defines how the scoring should be judged, (2) every match gets a >> score, >> (3) it's >> simple and (4) it clearly explains what we mean by "spirit". >> >> I think we've got pretty good spirit in the UK, but surely we can do >> even more to raise awareness of what competitive spirit looks like? >> Why not distribute a piece of paper with that scoring system and an >> explanation of SOTG with every captains pack? Make it compulsory in >> every UKUA event, get people used to doing it the same way every >> time. The same people tend to run most of the tournaments, wouldn't >> it be really easy to introduce one scoring system across the board in >> a year or two? >> >> I think any system that clarifies spirit voting is a good thing. >> And sure, >> you can knock points off teams which don't submit spirit votes >> themselves. >> Or don't consider a game to be accurately recorded until both teams >> have sent in the scores and their SOTG votes. Teams that fail to >> accurately record games face point deductions in the tour... >> >> I'm sure the consensus is there, we just need someone in a position >> of authority to tell us to do it! >> >> Regards, >> >> Dan Knapp >> #6 KO! >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> BritDisc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed >> > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
