Everyone has used the trollies at the supermarket where you have to
put a pound in to get a trolley. If you want your pound back you
take the trolley back to the other trollies and voilla!
To play ultimate you have to have a game disk(and a spare), what
about having two official game disks(per pitch) as the responsibility
of each team(one per team(if you don't bring a disk you cant play and
thus forfeit the game)), these disks are picked up from HQ by each
team(signed for!)at the beginning of the game and returned to HQ
after each game one disk being the responsibility of each team.
Benefits(mainly for the organisers)
1. you have to have both disks to start the game as you can only do
the toss with official disks.
2. you have a spare if, you hoof, spike or spoon one.
3 when you sign it back in you put in your score, spirit vote.
4. if you don't bring it back you'll be in trouble and we'll know who
you and your team are.
5. its another perfect job any team JTM can do.
Cons
1. The JTM wont like it.
hope your all enjoying you great summer
Adam (down under)
On 22 Aug 2007, at 01:12, Russell Parr wrote:
The BULA system as used at tournaments like Beachfest is a ten
point system
that clearly defines the score and removes the issues of it being
the team's
judgment. However, the issue at hand is more one of getting people
to report
spirit, not how they come up with the score itself - by definition
spirit is
always going to be a matter of judgment. I'm of the opinion that if
you
start giving six / ten / whatever point frameworks on which to
score teams,
you'll only make it more arduous for teams and therefore discourage
regular
reporting of scores.
Reporting of spirit is the job of the team captain, be it at the
end of each
game or (more practically) the end of each day of competition. It's
not a
particularly challenging thing to do and any team captain who
doesn't either
report the spirit score or ask a team member to do it is simply
being lazy -
no excuse. TDs are making admirable steps to make it easier but
ultimately I
don't see why people can't just get off their arse to do something
that they
know full well is an integral part of playing a tournament.
Pablo
-- 3 --
Flaming Galahs
P.S. Personal views and not those of my team, natch.
On 8/21/07, Dan Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I really like the system Kevin mentions. There are two main systems,
picking
three teams and awarding them 1st, 2nd and 3rd places, or judging
each
team
you've played out of 10.
The first system is weak because you're judging a team against the
others
you've played, not against a clear cut idea of what spirit is. It's
entirely
subjective. One team can get a good score for playing acceptably,
as long
as
the other teams you played were unspirited. It also doesn't
account for
how
much more spirited one team compared to another.
The second system (1 to 10 points per team) is also slightly weak
because
not all the teams will judge spirit in the same way. Some teams
will much
more "party" in their spirit allocation and will give points to
teams who
were the most fun. I've been a member of teams and watched us give
one
team
a good spirit vote because they wore fancy dress and threw stupid
throws.
The strengths of the system Kevin promotes is that it (1) clearly
defines
how the scoring should be judged, (2) every match gets a score,
(3) it's
simple and (4) it clearly explains what we mean by "spirit".
I think we've got pretty good spirit in the UK, but surely we can
do even
more to raise awareness of what competitive spirit looks like? Why
not
distribute a piece of paper with that scoring system and an
explanation of
SOTG with every captains pack? Make it compulsory in every UKUA
event, get
people used to doing it the same way every time. The same people
tend to
run
most of the tournaments, wouldn't it be really easy to introduce one
scoring
system across the board in a year or two?
I think any system that clarifies spirit voting is a good thing.
And sure,
you can knock points off teams which don't submit spirit votes
themselves.
Or don't consider a game to be accurately recorded until both
teams have
sent in the scores and their SOTG votes. Teams that fail to
accurately
record games face point deductions in the tour...
I'm sure the consensus is there, we just need someone in a
position of
authority to tell us to do it!
Regards,
Dan Knapp
#6 KO!
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