Just in case anyone's confused, here's why rodders wanted to check up on it - if it had been a foul, it WOULD have been a goal. You don't have to directly knock the disc out of a guy's hands for it to be a strip; any foul that results in him letting go of the disc is enough, so if you trip or unbalance the guy after the catch, it could be a strip.
WFDF Rules: 16.5.4. A defensive foul that causes the receiver or thrower to drop the disc after they have gained possession is a "Strip" foul. 16.5.4.1. If such a foul occurs and the reception would have otherwise been a goal, and the foul is uncontested, a goal is awarded. B Justin Parkhurst wrote: > Indeed, well spirited by Rodders in the COTD we saw. I don't fault the > sideline though, they are allowed to be involved in the game - indeed, one > of the great things about big games are the spectators - but Rodders knew > what happened, and he wasn't about to pretend it didn't simply because > others didn't see it happen (indeed, anyone who would have tried to 'get > away with it' really is in the wrong sport, in my opinion.) > > For some reason, several people on the sidelines that day were saying 'in > the US that would have been a goal' > > This does not appear to be true. Both UPA rules and WFDF rules seem to say > this is a turn over. Relevant rules from both are posted below: > > This is from WFDF > (http://www.wfdf.org/index.php?page=rules/2007_wfdf_ultimate_rules.htm) see > 13.2 > 13. Receivers and Positioning > > 13.1. A player "catches" the disc by demonstrating sustained control of a > non-spinning disc. > > > 13.2. If the player loses control of the disc due to subsequent contact > with the ground or a teammate or a legitimately positioned opposition > player, the catch is deemed to have not occurred. > > > UPA rules (section II, sub-section O, as well as Section XI) : > http://www.upa.org/ultimate/rules/11th#XV > > II Definitions: > .. > O. Possession of the disc: Sustained contact with, and control of, a > non-spinning disc. > 1.. Catching a pass is equivalent to establishing possession of that pass. > 2.. Loss of possession due to ground contact related to a catch negates > that player's possession up to that point. > .. > XI. Scoring > 1.. A goal is scored when an in-bounds player catches any legal pass in > the end zone of attack, and retains possession of the disc throughout all > ground contact related to the catch. > > > -Justin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Knapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:55 AM > Subject: Re: [BD] COTD: Fire v Chevron - Rodders' layout grab > > > >> And the clip also nicely highlights why uninvolved players and the >> sideline hecklers should stay out of it and not get involved. You can here >> people calling out and moaning about the speed of the game. >> >> Rodders made an awesome call, and had to ignore a lot of his peers to do >> so. Lesson there? He is a teacher I guess... >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Win Indiana Jones prizes with Live Search >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/ >> __________________________________________________ >> BritDisc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
