Apologies Britdisc.......Feel free to ignore! I just have to get this off my chest because I am basically being falsely accused of cheating by Roger, and don't feel happy just letting that go I'm afraid.
----------------------------- Roger, You weren't even there, and yet you seem to have the kind of privileged access to my thought-processes that I thought only I possessed, and all this just from watching a clip on the internet. Very impressive, Roger. There were no second thoughts, there was only my first thought: I NEVER pretended I didn't drop it. If you watch it, I IMMEDIATELY talk to Beavan and tell him what happened. I NEVER claim it didn't come out of my hand. The FIRST thing I did was get Beavan to one side, tell him it popped out of my hand, and ask him if he fouled me as I landed, causing the drop, because I didn't know. I may be wrong, but I am fairly sure that MY knowledge of my own thoughts is more accurate than the ramblings of someone who just watched a clip on the internet, and, equally, Beavan's knowledge of what I said is more accurate than the ramblings of someone who has watched a clip where our conversation is barely audible on full volume. If you wanted to provoke a response from me, then well done, you succeeded. I write this reply just in case you meant what you said, though I guess it's possible that you may have been joking to get a rise out of me...... Now you have me banging on about it again, which makes me look like I'm the sycophant unto myself......great! And yes, of course it is expected that everyone would do the same thing. Blah blah blah...... Rodders 2008/5/13 Roger Thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sycophants the lot of you. > > I love the way he tried to pretend he hadn't dropped it - then had second > thoughts, albeit only a moment later. > > Very commendable second thoughts though they were: they were second > thoughts > nonetheless. > > Bear. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Justin Parkhurst > Sent: 13 May 2008 08:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BD] Ground Strip Rules > > Indeed, well spirited by Rodders in the COTD we saw. I don't fault the > sideline though, they are allowed to be involved in the game - indeed, one > of the great things about big games are the spectators - but Rodders knew > what happened, and he wasn't about to pretend it didn't simply because > others didn't see it happen (indeed, anyone who would have tried to 'get > away with it' really is in the wrong sport, in my opinion.) > > For some reason, several people on the sidelines that day were saying 'in > the US that would have been a goal' > > This does not appear to be true. Both UPA rules and WFDF rules seem to say > this is a turn over. Relevant rules from both are posted below: > > This is from WFDF > (http://www.wfdf.org/index.php?page=rules/2007_wfdf_ultimate_rules.htm) > see > > 13.2 > 13. Receivers and Positioning > > 13.1. A player "catches" the disc by demonstrating sustained control of a > non-spinning disc. > > > 13.2. If the player loses control of the disc due to subsequent contact > with the ground or a teammate or a legitimately positioned opposition > player, the catch is deemed to have not occurred. > > > UPA rules (section II, sub-section O, as well as Section XI) : > http://www.upa.org/ultimate/rules/11th#XV > > II Definitions: > .. > O. Possession of the disc: Sustained contact with, and control of, a > non-spinning disc. > 1.. Catching a pass is equivalent to establishing possession of that > pass. > 2.. Loss of possession due to ground contact related to a catch negates > that player's possession up to that point. > .. > XI. Scoring > 1.. A goal is scored when an in-bounds player catches any legal pass in > the end zone of attack, and retains possession of the disc throughout all > ground contact related to the catch. > > > -Justin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Knapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:55 AM > Subject: Re: [BD] COTD: Fire v Chevron - Rodders' layout grab > > > > > > And the clip also nicely highlights why uninvolved players and the > > sideline hecklers should stay out of it and not get involved. You can > here > > > people calling out and moaning about the speed of the game. > > > > Rodders made an awesome call, and had to ignore a lot of his peers to do > > so. Lesson there? 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