oh, I think I get it Jimmy..  you dont want to hide your info from everyone, 
you just want to hide it from non members (or bots)..so for the public you like 
the way I have it now, but for members you want them to be able to contact 
you.?Ok, sometimes it takes a while for me to understand.. ha hait makes more 
sense now.
Eddie (NU5K)PS, still interested in any other discussion..
    On Sunday, March 10, 2019, 11:44:02 AM CDT, Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
  It isn't that I want it offline, I just don't want all my personal 
information in plain view of the world.  I'm suggesting that it be behind a 
protected page that requires some type of authentication to access, be that 
method a password or something else.   Having it all unlisted is fine and what 
I prefer in current state, but now no club member can actually contact me and 
that wasn't my intent
 
 --jv
 
 
 On 3/10/2019 11:12 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
  
 
 I did change it a little bit yesterday Jimmy.  Your record looks like this now 
 
| Jimmy Vance
  | W5ZTX  | UNLISTED  | UNLISTED  | UNLISTED  | 2019/05/01  | EXTRA  |

 as opposed to my record  
| Eddie Runner | NU5K  | 25618 Anvil Iron Ln
 Richmond TX 77406  | 713-569-8799
 713-626-7627  | eddie.runner at yahoo.com  | LIFE MEMBER  | EXTRA  |

 yes, the email addresses used to be clickable.. and the callsigns were 
clickable also (to link to QRZ.com) ..not anymore. 
  one of the things I like is that members can see if they are about to expire, 
or just expired.. and easily renew.
  
| John Parmalee | K5VGM  | 23506 Kings Forest
 HOCKLEY TX 77447  | 281 3803 811
   | JPARMALEE at aol.com  | 2019/01/01
 click to renew  | EXTRA  |

 This records Does have a link to our renewal page which is a clickable link. 
As the webguy and a programmer, it is simple simple for me to make changes.. So 
I can easily make this work any way the board decides... And I am always open 
to ideas. 
  Jimmy, I know you say you want it offline, but is your current record 
acceptable?  I mean do you also not want your name and call to display, or your 
expiration date?  Currently you are set to the MOST secure. 
  Eddie PS, Howard, currently the clubs membership officials, maintain the club 
membership roster, they can see and manipulate all information about all 
members present and past (we keep a historical record as well as current member 
ship).. This raw information is password protected of course. The visible 
(Current Roster) is visible on the website to the general public.. and this is 
what the discussion is about. 
  
  
  
      On Sunday, March 10, 2019, 9:06:46 AM CDT, Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
  I'm on the side that in this day and age with identity theft more and more 
common this information shouldn't be so freely available.  Yes there is the 
argument that this information is available on the FCC ULS, but you have to 
work for it, not just scrap a single page and grab a couple hundred names, 
addresses, phone numbers and emails. Th ULS also does not list phone numbers or 
email addresses
      
 The comment that only members can see the information is incorrect.  Anyone 
including every bot trolling the Internet scraping names and emails can 
download the information listed at  http://www.bvarc.org/index1.php?page=roster
 
 The visible fields are 
 
 
| NAME | CALLSIGN | ADDRESS | PHONE | EMAIL | EXPIRE | CLASS |

 For the email is uses 'at' instead of '@' and there is no longer a clickable 
link for the email (pretty sure it used to be clickable)
 
 Maybe use a 'captcha' or post some other image on the main page that would 
clue members in to what the password is when we forget?
 
 
 
 --jv
 W5ZTX
 
 
 On 3/10/2019 5:31 AM, D. Howard Bingham via BVARC wrote:
    
 
     
I have no problems as they are now, only members can see what is now available, 
no street address or phone numbers visible to "non-members".
 
Should board members have email addresses visible to "Members Only" ?
 
D. Howard Bingham
 
ke5apj  BVARC member since 2003
 
---
 
 On 3/9/2019 2:14 PM, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
  
 BVARC Roster - Discussion:
Bvarc provides a roster of current and recently expired members on the
bvarc.org website.
1.) ease of contacting other members.
2.) ease to see when or if you are about to expire.

BVARC also provides a list of members that are Board members as well as
lists
of members that have won awards in the past.  As well as a list of silent
keys (SK).
(on the who is page)

A public roster is pretty standard in Ham radio  (callbooks, QRZ website,
FCC lookup)
and in the past, BVARC even used to post roster info
in some of the early newsletters ( before there was a website ) 

Recently with the digital age some concerns about privacy have come up.

Our membership roster can currently display records 
PUBLICLY 
NO PHONE
or
NO LIST AT ALL (this lists name and call only with no address or phone)

But another idea has been to make the Roster Password protected so only
members with the correct password can see the roster.  

Currently only the ADMINS can see the entire unrestricted member list
(password protected) but the general public can see the slightly restricted
current roster.

My personal opinion is not many people even know the roster is there,
(it isnt used much) and if we had a member password no one would remember
it.

I would love to hear what the general membership thinks about this.

Eddie (NU5K)
BVARC web guy


 
 
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