I may have missed the details on the upcoming meeting. If someone can , please 
repost. I’d like to attend and help with the Hamfest.
Rick Cary 
K5RBC 

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> On Aug 26, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I’ll be at the meeting. 
> 
> Mike Hardwick.
> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Eddie Runner via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Mike n5vcx informed me this afternoon he will still be out
>> of town on the 28th.. so that meeting will probably have to be pushed back..
>> 
>> If anyone is interested in a meeting on the 28th without Mike I am game
>> email me and if we have enough we can do a personal meet somewhere 
>> in the sw houston area.
>> 
>> speak to me more about your interest in databases and so on
>> thats the part that I do for the club..  
>> 
>> Eddie (NU5K)
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 05:37:32 PM CDT, John Brockus via BVARC 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> More details about the upcoming meeting on the 28th, please.
>> 
>> I attended part of the one 2 weeks ago, and I missed the end of it.
>> 
>> I'm interested in databases/organizational tools but I'm also a team player.
>> 
>> John KC9JLE
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 4:00 PM Eddie Runner via BVARC <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Good Post Rick,
>> but we are never beyond the brainstorming phase, because we are always
>> thinking of far in the future hamfests..
>> 
>> The next meeting was proposed to be the 28th (i assume on ZOOM)
>> but I reproposed in person at Fuddruckers...
>> 
>> There  are a lot of NEW members that are actually stepping up, folks are
>> coming to see me at my business (4129 Richmond Ave) nearly everyday
>> 
>> since the Sunday 2 week ago, zoom meeting.    Phillippe - K5BOU, 
>> Mike - KI5NPM, Michael - KI5IIJ (and his wife Jennie), Mike - KI5UBL, 
>> and more I forget..ha ha
>> 
>> There is a lot of energy  !!
>> Eddie (NU5K)
>> 
>> BTW, I got a message that the Makers Faire folks are in this year..
>> IM not sure to what extent, but they do draw a crowd..  I also have some 
>> other
>> interesting developing things on food and maybe live music,
>> we can talk about a the meeting....
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 11:58:49 AM CDT, Rick Hiller via BVARC 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Become part of "The Core"
>> 
>> Throwing out ideas and discussion topics on the BVARC Reflector is good 
>> fodder for chewing and spewing.  But the next step is the hardest....taking 
>> your suggested ideas and running with one or two of them to help put 
>> together and run the GHHF.  In the past it has always fallen to "The Core" 
>> of BVARC members who are always there to do the dirty.   A few good folks in 
>> the past who were outside of the core had stepped up to help, but that is 
>> typically not the norm.    It wud be great if all of the ideas suggested 
>> were spoken for and implemented, with a lead person at the helm of each 
>> determined to successfully bring to the table/GHHF what they have 
>> undertaken.   That would be one heck of a Hamfest.   (Dayton, Huntsville, 
>> Orlando, etc. have hundreds of folks in 20 or 30 + clubs that join in 
>> putting those ham fests on)
>> 
>> We are kind of past the brainstorming phase and are now into the 
>> pre-operational phase for the GHHF 6 months off.  Please attend  the next 
>> meeting, to be announced soon, and step up to the plate to join The Core to 
>> bring it to fruition.  Your help would be massively appreciated, plus you'll 
>> have fun seeing your efforts being enjoyed by the thousands who attend.  
>> 
>> 73...Rick -- W5RH    
>> 
>>  
>> 
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>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 11:30 AM Nick Creason KE5QY via BVARC 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply, Eddie,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sound like you have a good group of contributors.  I hadn’t been following 
>> the discussion so I thought I’d just throw out some ideas.  Looks like you 
>> have already considered all of them.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’ve worked on putting events together for originations I worked for in the 
>> past and I know running them can quickly become a full-time job. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think the state convention will bring a lot of interest. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I added some comments below in red.                                          
>>      
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: BVARC On Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 11:01 AM
>> To: 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>> Cc: Eddie Runner <[email protected]>; 'Christopher Boone' 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [BVARC] HamFest IDeas and Discussion
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Nick,
>> 
>> Yes we can work with the ARRL.. In fact we do!!
>> 
>> We have the honor for our next hamfest to be the
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ARRL TEXAS STATE CONVENTION  !!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is great!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> (how ya like dem apples?) (its on the website)
>> 
>> ( http://www.houstonhamfest.org ) 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Larger audience? YES, of course, we are always looking for other interesting 
>> 
>> things that could draw to our hamfest..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have had the MAKERS FAIR folks, the LEGO folks, and even ROBOT WARS
>> 
>> we encourage computer clubs, and so many other things ..  Not to mention 
>> 
>> Astronauts and Space weather and so many really cool things
>> 
>> YOUR IDEAS???
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> NASA does set up and conduct tours.  (I’ll bet someone from their club could 
>> get this set up) We have some of the best museums in the world.   Every time 
>> we have been there some group was getting a tour).  Texans and Astro’s have 
>> tours of their stadiums. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What do you want for family activities?  A bouncy house??
>> 
>> Fort worth Hamfest has (from my unerstanding) quilting classes and 
>> 
>> other LADY things..   I dont have a clue how to see if that is even 
>> possible??
>> 
>> YOUR IDEAS???
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Same stuff as above.  Lots of people have lived here all their lives and 
>> never beet to any of the things people travel here to do.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Invite the local media?  YES, they always come!!! 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Schedule it so they cover a scheduled Satellite contact or maybe even 
>> contact with space station  (you never know till you try). 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A catchy name? there already is hamvention, hamcation, hamcom, and lots of 
>> others..
>> 
>> I am not good at this, what do you recommend???
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Through it out to the membership of all the clubs to come up with something. 
>>  How about H-Town Radio Extravaganza.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> IN Advance?   Yes of course, we work on renting the facilities a year or 
>> more in
>> 
>> advance to make sure we have a venue.  A few of us are always working on it 
>> year round, and 
>> 
>> we start having planning meetings 6 months in advance to get all the people 
>> and
>> 
>> jobs lined up..  Some from the last one may not be here this year and lots 
>> of new folks 
>> 
>> want to be involved.. 6 months is the time we start getting the groups 
>> together (NOW)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Other Groups???  
>> 
>> This is and always has been (since the beginning) a good idea.
>> 
>> BUT, not apparently as easy as everyone thinks.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This would take someone visiting the meetings for any groups we want to 
>> invite. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Our official BVARC stance is we welcome PARTNERS in the Houstonhamfest... 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> As far as I know, there are not any other area ham clubs that have a bank 
>> account
>> 
>> with enough funds to make a dent in what BVARC pays out to put on this 
>> event..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here we need sponsors.  We shouldn’t use club money for the event.  Should 
>> be able to get a meeting space donated if the club is non-profit, and any 
>> printing for tickets or flyers could be covered by advertisers.  You can 
>> even get the local recruiters to pay for some of this if you let them come 
>> and show off their toys.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The Makers Fair folks had a large budget at one time (they had a show at 
>> George R Brown
>> 
>> (very very expensive)  but they seem to have dissolved or split or 
>> something..  
>> 
>> we let them exhibit in the past at our shows for free, just to try to 
>> increase
>> 
>> attendance..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We give ANY ham club a free table with the promise they will actually man 
>> the table and 
>> 
>> promote ham radio .. Most of the time the club tables we give away are 
>> vacant during 
>> 
>> the show...   
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Everyone seems to say contact Dayton (or other big shows) for tips and 
>> advice.
>> 
>> I have been to Dayton many times (at Hara) and I always SPY to see what they 
>> 
>> are doing and we are not.  Anthony just got back from Huntsville, and many 
>> others
>> 
>> ALWAYS CRITIQUE the other shows, in an attempt to use the good and bad to 
>> 
>> help our own show..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> LEAP OF FAITH...  (Sat and Sun)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>   Anything we look up to as a better show, seems to always 
>> 
>> be a SATURDAY / SUNDAY show...  Ours is Friday set up and a few
>> 
>> small friday events (spaghetti supper) and the main show on Saturday..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Its pretty hard for us to put our heads (budget) around opening on 
>> 
>> Sunday as well since most of our vendors are packed up and gone
>> 
>> by two o clock on Saturday..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Faith?  if we scheduled a Sat/Sun show, would our vendors stay for sunday?
>> 
>> I personally think the biggest difference between US and THEM is the 2 day 
>> show.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If anyone else believes it, 
>> 
>> the leap of faith would be expensive.. And maybe 
>> 
>> the end of BVARC (financially)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> thanks for your input,  it is very valuable..!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Eddie Runner (NU5K) Houston HamFest
>> 
>>  BVARC Life Member
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dont forget to look in on http://www.houstonhamfest.org there is 
>> 
>> much information currently displayed on our past shows, and will
>> 
>> be replaced with information on our nest show as decisions are made.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 09:47:49 AM CDT, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m coming in to the conversation late so these ideas may have been 
>> discussed before but I’ll through in my thoughts anyway.
>> 
>> Have we looked at working with ARRL to tie an annual regional or divisional 
>> meeting to the Houston Hamfest?  May be to late to include this year, but 
>> could work for future event.  This would bring in some interesting speakers 
>> and free advertising.
>> 
>> Could we work with other non-ham organizations and business in the area that 
>> might be willing to donate prizes or exhibits that would be of interest to a 
>> larger audience?  Maybe NASA or SpaceX could provide some seminars or 
>> exhibits.  County or state emergency services and demos.
>> 
>> Set up some events or tours for non-ham activities that would make it more 
>> of a family event.  There are lots of activities for the whole family locally
>> 
>> Advertise it in all the ham magazines well ahead of time.  Give people from 
>> outside the area a chance to plan for the event.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Invite the local media to the event and play up what will be there.  (Newest 
>> radios, demonstrations, local celebrities)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Give it a unique name.  Hamcom and Hamvention sound like a big deal I’d want 
>> to attend.  Greater Houston Hamfest sounds like a local event just for 
>> locals.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I went to the Dallas Hamcom for years and it was always played up as a 
>> national or international event.  People started planning for the next year 
>> while they were there.  Is the Houston event date set a year in advance?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I do think getting a group together made up of representatives from all the 
>> local clubs would help pulling everything together and bring in new ideas.  
>> Dallas and Dayton both have permanent committees planning and supporting 
>> their events.  (Maybe even contact them and ask for some advice and ideas).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just some ideas.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Nick,  KE5QY
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: BVARC On Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 9:04 AM
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Eddie Runner <[email protected]>; Christopher Boone 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Greater Houston Hamfest
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ALL PARTNERSHIPS ARE POSSIBLE AND NEGOTIABLE..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Chris are you volunteering to join the BVARC permanent home committee??
>> 
>> (finding a clubhouse)...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Eddie (NU5K)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 08:16:00 AM CDT, Christopher Boone via BVARC 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> JP brings up an excellent idea. I'd like to remind everybody that HamCom in 
>> Dallas was an independent organization made up of members from various clubs 
>> that formed a corporation to run the hamfest. Perhaps this is something to 
>> look at in Houston. Form a corporation as a non-profit group and have 
>> members of the various clubs on the board. It needs to be a metro-wide area 
>> group. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Houston is always been lacking compared to the DFW area in amateur 
>> activities, which I don't understand why. Even my good friend and silent key 
>> Andy McAllister once said " Houston hams suck." The old Houston Amateur 
>> Radio Club used to have bi-monthly auctions at its clubhouse on OST. Sadly 
>> that club went under and the property was sold. Which was a damn shame 
>> because it was a very nice clubhouse with a fully operational HF station. 
>> And unfortunately that just proved Andy's statement. I think it's time to 
>> change that.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> WB5ITT
>> 
>> Texas State Employees ARS, T-SEARS 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:04 AM JP Pritchard via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>>     It is heartening to see the club get off to an earlier that usual start 
>> in planning for the hamfest, and of course the expected calls for ideas and 
>> actual real volunteers. Finding reliable volunteers is always a problem 
>> because most of us already have full plates, with work, family, etc.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So here's an old idea, submitted for yet another round of retorts that 
>> resurface every time someone makes a suggestion --"But we've already tried 
>> that."
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I suggest we offer to partner with the other clubs in the metro to help make 
>> it a true "Greater Houston Hamfest." It does work when applied to Field Day. 
>> Why not try again to apply it to the hamfest? Net income from the event 
>> might be divided according to a formula that reflects two factors -- each 
>> club's membership headcount, and each club's actual participation (expressed 
>> in numbers of participating volunteers). Such a system would give all clubs 
>> a stake in the success of the event.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'm now feeling verklempt, so this is your chance to discuss among 
>> yourselves. Or not.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 73, JP, K5JPP
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>   
>> 
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