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From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of Rick Cary via BVARC 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 7:51 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
Cc: Rick Cary <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] HamFest IDeas and Discussion

I may have missed the details on the upcoming meeting. If someone can , please 
repost. I’d like to attend and help with the Hamfest.
Rick Cary
K5RBC

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On Aug 26, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:

I’ll be at the meeting.

Mike Hardwick.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Eddie Runner via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:


Mike n5vcx informed me this afternoon he will still be out
of town on the 28th.. so that meeting will probably have to be pushed back..

If anyone is interested in a meeting on the 28th without Mike I am game
email me and if we have enough we can do a personal meet somewhere
in the sw houston area.

speak to me more about your interest in databases and so on
thats the part that I do for the club..

Eddie (NU5K)

On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 05:37:32 PM CDT, John Brockus via BVARC 
<[email protected]> wrote:


More details about the upcoming meeting on the 28th, please.

I attended part of the one 2 weeks ago, and I missed the end of it.

I'm interested in databases/organizational tools but I'm also a team player.

John KC9JLE

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 4:00 PM Eddie Runner via BVARC 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good Post Rick,
but we are never beyond the brainstorming phase, because we are always
thinking of far in the future hamfests..

The next meeting was proposed to be the 28th (i assume on ZOOM)
but I reproposed in person at Fuddruckers...

There  are a lot of NEW members that are actually stepping up, folks are
coming to see me at my business (4129 Richmond Ave) nearly everyday

since the Sunday 2 week ago, zoom meeting.    Phillippe - K5BOU,
Mike - KI5NPM, Michael - KI5IIJ (and his wife Jennie), Mike - KI5UBL,
and more I forget..ha ha

There is a lot of energy  !!
Eddie (NU5K)

BTW, I got a message that the Makers Faire folks are in this year..
IM not sure to what extent, but they do draw a crowd..  I also have some other
interesting developing things on food and maybe live music,
we can talk about a the meeting....



On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 11:58:49 AM CDT, Rick Hiller via BVARC 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Become part of "The Core"

Throwing out ideas and discussion topics on the BVARC Reflector is good fodder 
for chewing and spewing.  But the next step is the hardest....taking your 
suggested ideas and running with one or two of them to help put together and 
run the GHHF.  In the past it has always fallen to "The Core" of BVARC members 
who are always there to do the dirty.   A few good folks in the past who were 
outside of the core had stepped up to help, but that is typically not the norm. 
   It wud be great if all of the ideas suggested were spoken for and 
implemented, with a lead person at the helm of each determined to successfully 
bring to the table/GHHF what they have undertaken.   That would be one heck of 
a Hamfest.   (Dayton, Huntsville, Orlando, etc. have hundreds of folks in 20 or 
30 + clubs that join in putting those ham fests on)

We are kind of past the brainstorming phase and are now into the 
pre-operational phase for the GHHF 6 months off.  Please attend  the next 
meeting, to be announced soon, and step up to the plate to join The Core to 
bring it to fruition.  Your help would be massively appreciated, plus you'll 
have fun seeing your efforts being enjoyed by the thousands who attend.

73...Rick -- W5RH



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On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 11:30 AM Nick Creason KE5QY via BVARC 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks for the reply, Eddie,



Sound like you have a good group of contributors.  I hadn’t been following the 
discussion so I thought I’d just throw out some ideas.  Looks like you have 
already considered all of them.



I’ve worked on putting events together for originations I worked for in the 
past and I know running them can quickly become a full-time job.



I think the state convention will bring a lot of interest.



I added some comments below in red.



From: BVARC On Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 11:01 AM
To: 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Eddie Runner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
'Christopher Boone' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [BVARC] HamFest IDeas and Discussion



Hi Nick,

Yes we can work with the ARRL.. In fact we do!!

We have the honor for our next hamfest to be the



ARRL TEXAS STATE CONVENTION  !!



This is great!



(how ya like dem apples?) (its on the website)

( http://www.houstonhamfest.org )





Larger audience? YES, of course, we are always looking for other interesting

things that could draw to our hamfest..





We have had the MAKERS FAIR folks, the LEGO folks, and even ROBOT WARS

we encourage computer clubs, and so many other things ..  Not to mention

Astronauts and Space weather and so many really cool things

YOUR IDEAS???



NASA does set up and conduct tours.  (I’ll bet someone from their club could 
get this set up) We have some of the best museums in the world.   Every time we 
have been there some group was getting a tour).  Texans and Astro’s have tours 
of their stadiums.





What do you want for family activities?  A bouncy house??

Fort worth Hamfest has (from my unerstanding) quilting classes and

other LADY things..   I dont have a clue how to see if that is even possible??

YOUR IDEAS???



Same stuff as above.  Lots of people have lived here all their lives and never 
beet to any of the things people travel here to do.



Invite the local media?  YES, they always come!!!



Schedule it so they cover a scheduled Satellite contact or maybe even contact 
with space station  (you never know till you try).



A catchy name? there already is hamvention, hamcation, hamcom, and lots of 
others..

I am not good at this, what do you recommend???



Through it out to the membership of all the clubs to come up with something.  
How about H-Town Radio Extravaganza.



IN Advance?   Yes of course, we work on renting the facilities a year or more in

advance to make sure we have a venue.  A few of us are always working on it 
year round, and

we start having planning meetings 6 months in advance to get all the people and

jobs lined up..  Some from the last one may not be here this year and lots of 
new folks

want to be involved.. 6 months is the time we start getting the groups together 
(NOW)



Other Groups???

This is and always has been (since the beginning) a good idea.

BUT, not apparently as easy as everyone thinks.



This would take someone visiting the meetings for any groups we want to invite.



Our official BVARC stance is we welcome PARTNERS in the Houstonhamfest...



As far as I know, there are not any other area ham clubs that have a bank 
account

with enough funds to make a dent in what BVARC pays out to put on this event..



Here we need sponsors.  We shouldn’t use club money for the event.  Should be 
able to get a meeting space donated if the club is non-profit, and any printing 
for tickets or flyers could be covered by advertisers.  You can even get the 
local recruiters to pay for some of this if you let them come and show off 
their toys.



The Makers Fair folks had a large budget at one time (they had a show at George 
R Brown

(very very expensive)  but they seem to have dissolved or split or something..

we let them exhibit in the past at our shows for free, just to try to increase

attendance..



We give ANY ham club a free table with the promise they will actually man the 
table and

promote ham radio .. Most of the time the club tables we give away are vacant 
during

the show...



Everyone seems to say contact Dayton (or other big shows) for tips and advice.

I have been to Dayton many times (at Hara) and I always SPY to see what they

are doing and we are not.  Anthony just got back from Huntsville, and many 
others

ALWAYS CRITIQUE the other shows, in an attempt to use the good and bad to

help our own show..





LEAP OF FAITH...  (Sat and Sun)



  Anything we look up to as a better show, seems to always

be a SATURDAY / SUNDAY show...  Ours is Friday set up and a few

small friday events (spaghetti supper) and the main show on Saturday..



Its pretty hard for us to put our heads (budget) around opening on

Sunday as well since most of our vendors are packed up and gone

by two o clock on Saturday..



Faith?  if we scheduled a Sat/Sun show, would our vendors stay for sunday?

I personally think the biggest difference between US and THEM is the 2 day show.



If anyone else believes it,

the leap of faith would be expensive.. And maybe

the end of BVARC (financially)



thanks for your input,  it is very valuable..!



Eddie Runner (NU5K) Houston HamFest

 BVARC Life Member



Dont forget to look in on http://www.houstonhamfest.org there is

much information currently displayed on our past shows, and will

be replaced with information on our nest show as decisions are made.











On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 09:47:49 AM CDT, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi,

I’m coming in to the conversation late so these ideas may have been discussed 
before but I’ll through in my thoughts anyway.

Have we looked at working with ARRL to tie an annual regional or divisional 
meeting to the Houston Hamfest?  May be to late to include this year, but could 
work for future event.  This would bring in some interesting speakers and free 
advertising.

Could we work with other non-ham organizations and business in the area that 
might be willing to donate prizes or exhibits that would be of interest to a 
larger audience?  Maybe NASA or SpaceX could provide some seminars or exhibits. 
 County or state emergency services and demos.

Set up some events or tours for non-ham activities that would make it more of a 
family event.  There are lots of activities for the whole family locally

Advertise it in all the ham magazines well ahead of time.  Give people from 
outside the area a chance to plan for the event.



Invite the local media to the event and play up what will be there.  (Newest 
radios, demonstrations, local celebrities)



Give it a unique name.  Hamcom and Hamvention sound like a big deal I’d want to 
attend.  Greater Houston Hamfest sounds like a local event just for locals.



I went to the Dallas Hamcom for years and it was always played up as a national 
or international event.  People started planning for the next year while they 
were there.  Is the Houston event date set a year in advance?



I do think getting a group together made up of representatives from all the 
local clubs would help pulling everything together and bring in new ideas.  
Dallas and Dayton both have permanent committees planning and supporting their 
events.  (Maybe even contact them and ask for some advice and ideas).



Just some ideas.



Nick,  KE5QY





From: BVARC On Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 9:04 AM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Eddie Runner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
Christopher Boone <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Greater Houston Hamfest



ALL PARTNERSHIPS ARE POSSIBLE AND NEGOTIABLE..



Chris are you volunteering to join the BVARC permanent home committee??

(finding a clubhouse)...



Eddie (NU5K)



On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 08:16:00 AM CDT, Christopher Boone via BVARC 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:





JP brings up an excellent idea. I'd like to remind everybody that HamCom in 
Dallas was an independent organization made up of members from various clubs 
that formed a corporation to run the hamfest. Perhaps this is something to look 
at in Houston. Form a corporation as a non-profit group and have members of the 
various clubs on the board. It needs to be a metro-wide area group.



Houston is always been lacking compared to the DFW area in amateur activities, 
which I don't understand why. Even my good friend and silent key Andy 
McAllister once said " Houston hams suck." The old Houston Amateur Radio Club 
used to have bi-monthly auctions at its clubhouse on OST. Sadly that club went 
under and the property was sold. Which was a damn shame because it was a very 
nice clubhouse with a fully operational HF station. And unfortunately that just 
proved Andy's statement. I think it's time to change that.



Chris

WB5ITT

Texas State Employees ARS, T-SEARS





On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:04 AM JP Pritchard via BVARC 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Dear friends,

    It is heartening to see the club get off to an earlier that usual start in 
planning for the hamfest, and of course the expected calls for ideas and actual 
real volunteers. Finding reliable volunteers is always a problem because most 
of us already have full plates, with work, family, etc.



So here's an old idea, submitted for yet another round of retorts that 
resurface every time someone makes a suggestion --"But we've already tried 
that."



I suggest we offer to partner with the other clubs in the metro to help make it 
a true "Greater Houston Hamfest." It does work when applied to Field Day. Why 
not try again to apply it to the hamfest? Net income from the event might be 
divided according to a formula that reflects two factors -- each club's 
membership headcount, and each club's actual participation (expressed in 
numbers of participating volunteers). Such a system would give all clubs a 
stake in the success of the event.



I'm now feeling verklempt, so this is your chance to discuss among yourselves. 
Or not.



73, JP, K5JPP





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