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> On May 17, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Martha Wild via Callers 
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> 
> Hear, hear! My sentiments exactly! How on earth are you supposed to “give 
> weight” (in the proper way, just a tiny bit so you are both part of a unit) 
> and get around each other with a flat, palm to palm contact? The only way 
> that works is that people bend their wrists so that they have some purchase 
> on the other person. Which hurts my now no longer flat wrist! So wrong, 
> painfully wrong. Please, please, please, stop teaching a flat hand allemande. 
> It doesn’t work. Curved fingers, straight wrist, the thumb is just sort of 
> loose and not doing much. Thank you for bringing that up, Erik!
> Martha
> 
>> On May 17, 2019, at 3:01 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers 
>> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> 
>> John Sweeny below hoped we callers would teach more about hand turns and the 
>> like.
>>  
>> I’ve been thinking on this for quite a while. Years ago I had a discussion 
>> with Brad Foster. We both lamented the loss of the allemande with mildly 
>> interlocking thumbs to the modern overprotective thumb against the side of 
>> the palm allemande. At that time I think I was still in Santa Barbara, thus 
>> it must have been pre 1994. I wrote an article for our dance rag called, “If 
>> Allemande Left, Where’d Allemande Go?”
>>  
>> I talked about what I do when someone grips my hand—and I think all of us 
>> should remove that word, “grip” from our caller’s vocabulary…
>>  
>> But the most important thing I discussed is:
>> Our Wrist is Strongest When It’s Straight
>> Our Fingers are Strongest When Curved
>> Thus, however one does an allemande, it should be a hook, with curved 
>> fingers and a straight wrist.
>>  
>> Lately I’ve seen teachers promote the straight fingers, bent wrist, and flat 
>> palm method. The almost always makes one person’s wrist uncomfortable. Not 
>> as bad as when someone draws the others hand into that 
>> almost-Aikido-put-them-on-the-ground position, but usually quite 
>> uncomfortable.
>>  
>> Thus I hope most of us learn the curved fingers, straight wrist, no grip, 
>> and, no thumb clamping allemande, ECD hand turn, two hand turn type hand 
>> connections.
>>  
>> ~Erik Hoffman,
>>    Oakland, CA
>>  
>> From: Callers <callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net> On Behalf Of John 
>> Sweeney via Callers
>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 2:09 PM
>> To: 'Caller's discussion list' <call...@sharedweight.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Name that Dance
>>  
>> Hi Rich,
>>               I would just call it a “Big Set Mixer”.  It is a slight 
>> variation of the one in the Community Dances Manual.  Callers just make up a 
>> 32 bar sequence that works for their dancers.
>>  
>>               While it is a good example of all ages having fun together, I 
>> really wish callers would teach the dancers just a tiny bit about how to do 
>> better hand/arm turns and swings :-)
>>  
>>             Happy dancing,                         
>>                    John                                  
>>                                    
>> John Sweeney, Dancer, England   j...@modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 
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