Westernstarr,

It's sad if she indeed has died.

Yeah you're right, Sin Si Samouth is a unifying Cambodian figure.
Indeed the Cambodian people can agree with each other only when they
talk about him.

Soriya

On Feb 22, 6:06 pm, Westernstarr <[email protected]> wrote:
> Soriya
>
> I think it is true she died recently from diabetes (to be confirmed), I was
> told by a few people. But there are still a few other surviving children of
> SSM if people wish to help.
>
> I note that SSM is like a unifying Khmer figure. Khmer people can only agree
> when they talk about SSM. His songs should be used to unite and reconcile
> the badly disunited Khmer people and the fractured Khmer society.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Soriya <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hello Westernstarr,
>
> > Thank you for revealing the story of Sin Si Samouth as you saw it.
>
> > Now, has his widow indeed passed away?? hmm, it's sad if it's true.
> > Yeah it's sad, I've also seen the video in which she begged for help
> > from overseas Cambodians; I watched it several times. In many posts of
> > mine elsewhere on the internet (under a username different from
> > "Soriya"), I ask the Cambodian government to officially declare Sin Si
> > Samouth as a national treasure, I urge the music companies who make
> > money out of his songs to pay some royalties to his widow & surviving
> > children, reminding them that they have a moral if not legal
> > obligation to do so, & I ask overseas Cambodians who enjoy his music
> > to create a fund to help his widow & surviving children.
>
> > Right, the Cambodian society of before April 1975 didn't value
> > artists, including movie stars & singers. Back then, people referred 2
> > Kong Som Oeun as "Ah Kong Som Oeun", or Meas Hok Seng as "Ah Meas Hok
> > Seng". Remarkably, no one ever referred to Sin Si Samouth as "Ah Sin
> > Si Samouth". They referred to him as "Sin Si Samouth" or, more
> > affectionately, as "Samouth". Yeah Yeah, Sin Si Samouth was the most
> > respected, or probably the only respected, Cambodian entertainer back
> > then.
>
> > Yeah Yeah, Sin Si Samouth for the Cambodian culture is at the same
> > level as the Beatles & Elvis Prestley are to the English-language
> > world. Even more so. The art, science, & technique of singing in Khmer
> > by Sin Si Samouth for the Cambodian people are, to my ears, more
> > sophisticated than those by the Beatles & Elvis Prestley for the
> > English-speaking world. Furthermore, his average rate of producing hit
> > songs (eg the average number of hit songs produced per year) is higher
> > than that of the Beatles & that of Elvis Prestley.
>
> > Once somebody gets to understand the Khmer language, he/she falls in
> > love with  Sin Si Samouth's songs. I've seen this phenomenon on the
> > internet. Even some people who don't understand the Khmer language at
> > all also claim they love his songs, & most of them even request that
> > his lyrics be translated into English. I've seen this phenomenon on
> > the internet.
>
> > So, again, I ask the Cambodian government to officially declare Sin Si
> > Samouth as a national treasure & his music as a national heritage, &
> > to erect a memorial monument or statue to honor him.
>
> > Soriya
>
> > On Feb 22, 6:32 am, Westernstarr <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > A few years ago, I read a magazine in which a person who claimed to have
> > > been locked up in a prison in Kandal in which he met SSM there. The man
> > > claimed to have composed the song Thngai 17 kakada for SSM to sing a few
> > > years earlier. But due to the long separation between the two in the
> > earlier
> > > 1970s, SSM couldn't remember him until he was reminded of that
> > > particular song.
>
> > > The man said later on a young KR cadre came into the prison and led SSM
> > > away. SSM knew that he was to be killed. As he was being led away, he
> > looked
> > > back at the man and said goodbye. Soon after, the KR cadre brought back
> > the
> > > clothes to the prison. This man said he could recogonise the clothes
> > > belonged to SSM.
>
> > > I am trying to recall which magazine I read.
>
> > > Yes, so true Khmer government should posthumuosly Okhna-ed him and pay
> > some
> > > pension to his immediate family members, along with other famous Khmer
> > > artists who had perished. I think it would be good if the Opposition
> > takes
> > > up the case.
>
> > > But anyway, historically, Khmer artists have never been valued or looked
> > > down by Khmer society and Khmer leaders of all persuasions never care
> > about
> > > what they see as non-issue like this.
> > > It was so disheartening to see his wife begging for help in a video
> > before
> > > she passed away recently (?).
>
> >  > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Soriya <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hello Ta Boo,
>
> > > > Actually I encountered on the internet 2 versions of how Sin Si
> > > > Samouth was killed by the Khmer Rouge. The 1st version is similar to
> > > > yours, and the 2nd is presented in my 1st post in this subject.
>
> > > > The story in the 1st version is similar to those of 100s of 1,000s of
> > > > other Cambodian victims, while that in the 2nd story is probably
> > > > uniquely unspeakably cruel. So I present only the 2nd version.
> > > > However, as I implied, it may or may not be true.
>
> > > > I take this occasion to urge the Cambodian government to officially
> > > > declare Sin Si Samouth as a national treasure, and to erect some kind
> > > > of memorial monument to honor him.
>
> > > > Soriya
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 3:01 pm, Ta Boo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Sorya!
>
> > > > > About Sin Si Samuth put to death by the Khmer Rouge after being
> > evacuted
> > > > from Phnom Penh, I have different version from you. Sin Sisamuth was
> > > > evacuated from Phnom Penh to Bath Tambang where the Khmer Rouge had him
> > to
> > > > dig his own grave and had him to sin the best favorable song before put
> > him
> > > > to death. When to got at Surin, Thailand, on April 1975, somes Thai
> > came to
> > > > ask me if Sin Sisamuth was among you.
>
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Soriya <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - w ww.cambodia.org <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:53:5 6 AM
> > > > > Subject: Sin Si Samouth & The Khmer Rouge Leaders
>
> > > > > Sin Si Samouth & The Khmer Rouge Leaders
>
> > > > > Several weeks ago I saw somewhere on the internet the following:
>
> > > > > Sin Si Samouth was ordered by the Khmer Rouge leaders to write & sing
> > > > > a song to glorify their war victory over Lon Nol. He complied. As
> > soon
> > > > > as he finished singing the song, he was arrested by the Khmer Rouge,
> > > > > his tongue was cut off, & he died of a slow painful death.
>
> > > > > That may be true, considering the hatred cruelty atrocity
> > barbarianism
> > > > > beastliness of the Khmer Rouge.
>
> > > > > Now, if that's true, do you have any English or Khmer word to
> > describe
> > > > > that unspeakable cruelty of the Khmer Rouge leaders??
>
> > > > > Soriya- Hide quoted text -
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