Yeaaah right...... On Feb 26, 1:18 am, Soriya <[email protected]> wrote: > Westernstarr, > > It's sad if she indeed has died. > > Yeah you're right, Sin Si Samouth is a unifying Cambodian figure. > Indeed the Cambodian people can agree with each other only when they > talk about him. > > Soriya > > On Feb 22, 6:06 pm, Westernstarr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Soriya > > > I think it is true she died recently from diabetes (to be confirmed), I was > > told by a few people. But there are still a few other surviving children of > > SSM if people wish to help. > > > I note that SSM is like a unifying Khmer figure. Khmer people can only agree > > when they talk about SSM. His songs should be used to unite and reconcile > > the badly disunited Khmer people and the fractured Khmer society. > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Soriya <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello Westernstarr, > > > > Thank you for revealing the story of Sin Si Samouth as you saw it. > > > > Now, has his widow indeed passed away?? hmm, it's sad if it's true. > > > Yeah it's sad, I've also seen the video in which she begged for help > > > from overseas Cambodians; I watched it several times. In many posts of > > > mine elsewhere on the internet (under a username different from > > > "Soriya"), I ask the Cambodian government to officially declare Sin Si > > > Samouth as a national treasure, I urge the music companies who make > > > money out of his songs to pay some royalties to his widow & surviving > > > children, reminding them that they have a moral if not legal > > > obligation to do so, & I ask overseas Cambodians who enjoy his music > > > to create a fund to help his widow & surviving children. > > > > Right, the Cambodian society of before April 1975 didn't value > > > artists, including movie stars & singers. Back then, people referred 2 > > > Kong Som Oeun as "Ah Kong Som Oeun", or Meas Hok Seng as "Ah Meas Hok > > > Seng". Remarkably, no one ever referred to Sin Si Samouth as "Ah Sin > > > Si Samouth". They referred to him as "Sin Si Samouth" or, more > > > affectionately, as "Samouth". Yeah Yeah, Sin Si Samouth was the most > > > respected, or probably the only respected, Cambodian entertainer back > > > then. > > > > Yeah Yeah, Sin Si Samouth for the Cambodian culture is at the same > > > level as the Beatles & Elvis Prestley are to the English-language > > > world. Even more so. The art, science, & technique of singing in Khmer > > > by Sin Si Samouth for the Cambodian people are, to my ears, more > > > sophisticated than those by the Beatles & Elvis Prestley for the > > > English-speaking world. Furthermore, his average rate of producing hit > > > songs (eg the average number of hit songs produced per year) is higher > > > than that of the Beatles & that of Elvis Prestley. > > > > Once somebody gets to understand the Khmer language, he/she falls in > > > love with Sin Si Samouth's songs. I've seen this phenomenon on the > > > internet. Even some people who don't understand the Khmer language at > > > all also claim they love his songs, & most of them even request that > > > his lyrics be translated into English. I've seen this phenomenon on > > > the internet. > > > > So, again, I ask the Cambodian government to officially declare Sin Si > > > Samouth as a national treasure & his music as a national heritage, & > > > to erect a memorial monument or statue to honor him. > > > > Soriya > > > > On Feb 22, 6:32 am, Westernstarr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A few years ago, I read a magazine in which a person who claimed to have > > > > been locked up in a prison in Kandal in which he met SSM there. The man > > > > claimed to have composed the song Thngai 17 kakada for SSM to sing a few > > > > years earlier. But due to the long separation between the two in the > > > earlier > > > > 1970s, SSM couldn't remember him until he was reminded of that > > > > particular song. > > > > > The man said later on a young KR cadre came into the prison and led SSM > > > > away. SSM knew that he was to be killed. As he was being led away, he > > > looked > > > > back at the man and said goodbye. Soon after, the KR cadre brought back > > > the > > > > clothes to the prison. This man said he could recogonise the clothes > > > > belonged to SSM. > > > > > I am trying to recall which magazine I read. > > > > > Yes, so true Khmer government should posthumuosly Okhna-ed him and pay > > > some > > > > pension to his immediate family members, along with other famous Khmer > > > > artists who had perished. I think it would be good if the Opposition > > > takes > > > > up the case. > > > > > But anyway, historically, Khmer artists have never been valued or looked > > > > down by Khmer society and Khmer leaders of all persuasions never care > > > about > > > > what they see as non-issue like this. > > > > It was so disheartening to see his wife begging for help in a video > > > before > > > > she passed away recently (?). > > > > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Soriya <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Ta Boo, > > > > > > Actually I encountered on the internet 2 versions of how Sin Si > > > > > Samouth was killed by the Khmer Rouge. The 1st version is similar to > > > > > yours, and the 2nd is presented in my 1st post in this subject. > > > > > > The story in the 1st version is similar to those of 100s of 1,000s of > > > > > other Cambodian victims, while that in the 2nd story is probably > > > > > uniquely unspeakably cruel. So I present only the 2nd version. > > > > > However, as I implied, it may or may not be true. > > > > > > I take this occasion to urge the Cambodian government to officially > > > > > declare Sin Si Samouth as a national treasure, and to erect some kind > > > > > of memorial monument to honor him. > > > > > > Soriya > > > > > > On Feb 21, 3:01 pm, Ta Boo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sorya! > > > > > > > About Sin Si Samuth put to death by the Khmer Rouge after being > > > evacuted > > > > > from Phnom Penh, I have different version from you. Sin Sisamuth was > > > > > evacuated from Phnom Penh to Bath Tambang where the Khmer Rouge had > > > > > him > > > to > > > > > dig his own grave and had him to sin the best favorable song before > > > > > put > > > him > > > > > to death. When to got at Surin, Thailand, on April 1975, somes Thai > > > came to > > > > > ask me if Sin Sisamuth was among you. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Soriya <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - w ww.cambodia.org < > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:53:5 6 AM > > > > > > Subject: Sin Si Samouth & The Khmer Rouge Leaders > > > > > > > Sin Si Samouth & The Khmer Rouge Leaders > > > > > > > Several weeks ago I saw somewhere on the internet the following: > > > > > > > Sin Si Samouth was ordered by the Khmer Rouge leaders to write & > > > > > > sing > > > > > > a song to glorify their war victory over Lon Nol. He complied. As > > > soon > > > > > > as he finished singing the song, he was arrested by the Khmer Rouge, > > > > > > his tongue was cut off, & he died of a slow painful death. > > > > > > > That may be true, considering the hatred cruelty atrocity > > > barbarianism > > > > > > beastliness of the Khmer Rouge. > > > > > > > Now, if that's true, do you have any English or Khmer word to > > > describe > > > > > > that unspeakable cruelty of the Khmer Rouge leaders?? > > > > > > > Soriya- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
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