On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, TSHACK wrote:

> I did that, but for some reason, it took hours to download the archive, my
> machine bombed in the middle, and it wasn't really a download, you know,
> like an ftp link, but saving the web page to file.  I don't know why this
> should take so long, but it did.

You can't really have a download that isn't really a download.  Not to
mention that the web is mostly just a graphical interface to the lower
level commands such as ftp.  That is kind of what you get when you click a
download via the web - not exactly an anonymous ftp but close.  Sounds
like the latency in your connection was kind of high.

> I got the zip file that Guillermo sent me, but its coming out as a TXT file,
> and isn't formatted correctly.  Everything is run on.  I'm fooling around
> right now with changing the file extension to see if that works.

OK, we can talk more in depth about this off-line if you'd like, but file
extensions have no bearing on much of anything.  They are simply there as
a naming convention to help people understand file contents, but only if
they happen to be used that way.  The fact that you can change the
extension should give you a clue about this.  The bottom line is that
extensions have nothing explicitly to do with file content.  If you want
that use magic numbers.

As for the formating, my guess is that you were sent a compressed text
file.  That means that your data was transmitted in binary form.  Since
you say "everything is run on" my guess is that Guillermo's system is *nix
based and consequently only uses the <carriage return> end of line
marker.  Microsoft as usual chooses to be different and uses a <carriage
return> <line feed> end of line marker.  That is one of the problems of
distributing a compressed version of the file.  If your system uses a
different data representation it will do the conversion when exchanging
text via the web or ftp.  You can't do this step to a binary file.  I'm
only guessing at the cause of your problem.

In any case, this is all computer technical stuff that we can take
off-line and figure out since it is not topical for this list.

- Wayde
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