That sounds interesting. I can't wait to read it. But
don't you feel that moral and thus XP suffers when
people feel a loss for their job?

I guess what I am looking for is how, if any,
offshoring affects XP. I guess having a chapter in a
solely XP book answers that question. Maybe there is a
relation somewhere, even if not very pronounced.

Stede

--- Kent Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> In XPE2, I included a chapter on outsourcing. My
> position is that we
> should apply the principle of mutual benefit to the
> problem. What would
> be a solution to locating programming jobs that
> would be good for
> everyone involved? The best solution I can think of
> is to improve the
> value created by programming, both co-located and
> multi-site. I don't
> think this is a "case against outsourcing".
> 
> Kent Beck
> Three Rivers Institute
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stede Troisi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:23 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: The XP case against outsourcing (was
> RE: [XP] 
> > [OT] Money is Nice)
> > 
> > --- Steven Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > The XP case against outsourcing is that XP can
> > > produce more
> > > value to the customer per unit cost by working
> very
> > > closely with 
> > > the customer than cheaper programmers can
> produce by
> > > working 
> > > isolated from the customer (even if those
> cheaper
> > > programmers
> > > claim to be CMM level 5).  
> > 
> > Thanks Steven. I didn't know there was an "XP case
> > against outsourcing." Now that you mention it that
> > sounds wonderful. I am happy now.
> > 
> > I was just observing how many just "accept" less
> jobs
> > ergo less money and don't discuss or band together
> in
> > a way that was XP by nature. Most just ignore it
> or
> > think it will just go away.
> 
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