The case against outsourcing is that software development is product development
(read invention).  The outsourcing efforts that have virtually eliminated the US
steel and textile industries, among others, were mass production operations.

IT outsourcing for application support and system operations may work.  I doubt
that outsourcing for development efforts will work, because of communication
issues.  They will be tried.  They will fail at even greater rates than current
US IT projects.

Gary Brown


Quoting Kent Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> In XPE2, I included a chapter on outsourcing. My position is that we
> should apply the principle of mutual benefit to the problem. What would
> be a solution to locating programming jobs that would be good for
> everyone involved? The best solution I can think of is to improve the
> value created by programming, both co-located and multi-site. I don't
> think this is a "case against outsourcing".
> 
> Kent Beck
> Three Rivers Institute
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stede Troisi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:23 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: The XP case against outsourcing (was RE: [XP] 
> > [OT] Money is Nice)
> > 
> > --- Steven Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > The XP case against outsourcing is that XP can
> > > produce more
> > > value to the customer per unit cost by working very
> > > closely with 
> > > the customer than cheaper programmers can produce by
> > > working 
> > > isolated from the customer (even if those cheaper
> > > programmers
> > > claim to be CMM level 5).  
> > 
> > Thanks Steven. I didn't know there was an "XP case
> > against outsourcing." Now that you mention it that
> > sounds wonderful. I am happy now.
> > 
> > I was just observing how many just "accept" less jobs
> > ergo less money and don't discuss or band together in
> > a way that was XP by nature. Most just ignore it or
> > think it will just go away.
> 
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