IS THIS A POLL?

My answer is Fear. Not of losing my job but of losing
my hobby. I certainly could move to project peader or
some other leadership/management position but I like
programming and engineering more than business related
jobs.

--- Keith Nicholas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> It seems quite a number of American programmers are
> getting really paranoid
> of losing their jobs to overseas places?
> 
> Is this a trend? Or a fear?
> 
> Though, with a huge failure rate reported in
>
http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/management/project/story/0,108
> 01,97283,00.html  its not surprising people want to
> fail for less cost
> somewhere else :-)
> 
> I think a bit of a shake up in the software industry
> would be good, it might
> make people adapt, change, and innovate a lot more. 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stede Troisi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 10:00 a.m.
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [XP] An Employee Owned XP Enterprise?
> > 
> > 
> > Uncle Bob,
> > 
> > does Objectmentor get hurt if programmers in this
> country 
> > lose their jobs in mass or can you position
> yourself internationally?
> > 
> > Stede
> > 
> > --- "Robert C. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jhrothjr
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > The thing to understand about economics is
> that if
> > > you have
> > > > perfect competition, nobody makes any profits.
> 
> > > 
> > > I disagree.  If you have perfect competition
> then everybody 
> > makes just 
> > > enough profit to stay alive.  Our population and
> our economy is 
> > > growing.  If your business does not grow with
> it, it will die.
> > > Profit is an essential
> > > component of growth, and therefore an essential
> component 
> > of success.
> > > 
> > > > Profit is made
> > > > by exploiting some inequity in the market. 
> > > 
> > > Profit is made by exploiting the difference
> between value 
> > and cost.  
> > > This may be an inequity, but it is vital to
> civilization,  
> > Without it 
> > > we'd all still be hunter-gatherers working
> solely for ourselves.
> > > 
> > > A heat engine is driven by the inequity an
> inequity of 
> > temperatures.  
> > > The economic engine is driven by the inequity of
> value and cost.
> > > 
> > > And in the interest of full-disclosure: Economic
> Theory 
> > According to 
> > > Uncle Bob is about as useful as Object Oriented
> principles 
> > according 
> > > to Margaret Thatcher.
> > > 
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