Bru Peckett wrote:
> Lets try that again from the top with words this time! ...

I seem to have unearthed a can of worms with the painting thread  ;-)

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> Or the on/off switch for that matter. Or a lightbulb going 'pop'. It
> doesn't need some pillock to strike a match in the vicinity to ignite
> solvent fumes, somebody walks in and turns on, or off, the lights
> (possibly even after you've knocked off for the day) and KABOOM. Any
> electrical gear within the 'spray booth' ie; in this case the wet dock
> (and ideally there simply shouldn't be any - not even light fittings)
> needs to be ATEX certified for use in a potentially explosive
> atmosphere and you're fryer most certainly wouldn't be ... nor for
> that matter would any of the electrical equipment in the dock
> (lights, power points etc.)

Agree with that.  I know of a whole floor of a building destroyed by the use 
of a single non-flameproof fridge bought in error!

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>
> That's a relief to an extent but what sort of mask? When I said a
> respirator I *meant* a *RESPIRATOR*. That's breathing apparatus with
> either a self contained air supply or an air supply drawn from outside
> the spray booth not just a mask. There isn't a mask on the market that
> will filter out the airborne particles from paint spraying and it's
> nasty stuff.

Paint has all sorts of nasties thesedays - SCBA is the only way (or air 
hood, but the bl**dy hose is a pain!)

>
> In the bad old days, I used to know some old boys who were paint
> sprayers where I did my apprenticeship and back then all they had were
> face masks. They all wheezed like nobodies business and they mostly
> died young of lung disease. Oh and they were high as a kite a lot of
> the time too!

And what mask to most people resort to?  Usually a dust mask!  Not much use 
for paint.  You can get dust type masks with charcoal in them, not worth the 
money - won't stop much.  All of us at work have a full face respirator (to 
protect *eyes* as well as lungs) with a multifunctional cannister - removes 
all gasses and dusts, for handling chemicals outside a fume cupboard.  *But* 
they have a very limited life - no good for paint spraying as the cannister 
would soon saturate (I do have a hood type on the boat with a triple 
cannister on a belt - not bad for dusty and smelly jobs, still have to watch 
for saturation)

>>> The other problem, IMO, is that if you get a spray paint job right
>>> the finish is far too good! That may sound daft but a high gloss
>>> coach finish a la Rolls Royce is the last thing you want on your
>>> average narrowboat 'cos it tends to show up every little
>>> imperfection in the steelwork.

Betsey is not flat enough for a high quality spray job.  Not that I wanted 
one.

> Fine if that's your thing, not to my tastes though and never looks, to
> my eye, right on a narrowboat

Just wait until he runs into the first hedge.... :-)

> Larger insects that would leave a significant blemish don't usually
> get stuck to tacky paint, only wet stuff, and are removed when you
> lay off. If there are any bad blemishes they can be retouched if
> you're really fussy but, when all's said and done, it's a narrowboat
> not a flamin' Roller!

<snipping compressor data - not my scene>

Ron Jones
Process Safety & Development Specialist
Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near misses at
http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and
human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert
Einstein 


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