Ann wrote:
> From: "Ron Jones" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [canals-list] OT - Firefox and IE
<snip>
>
> I have heard the term "frames" before but to be honest, I don't really
> understand it :-)  All now seems to be well with my little world -
> SIWA site is loading OK and when I press shift and 2  I get " and not
> a nasty ampersand.  The glass of red wine with my evening meal was
> obviously a good idea  as  it sorted everything out!
>
> Thanks, everyone. canal folk are SO helpful.
>
> Ann

It's definitely a frame - because you are using a redirect.
The *basic* page is good, no frames 
(http://www.ann.street.btinternet.co.uk/siwa/indexsiwa.htm)
But the main address is a wrapped around transparent frame 
(http://www.siwa.org.uk/)

That's mainly what causes the problem you get - when you hit refresh, you 
only refresh the http://www.siwa.org.uk/ page, not the underlying 
http://www.ann.street.btinternet.co.uk/siwa/indexsiwa.htm page.
I used to get this problem when I had a site set up like this one - the 
*real* other disadvantage is that search engines (like Google) rank *down* 
sites that are not hosted, so you never get a good rating in the search 
engines.
(FWIW - it looks like you use Freeparking - like I used to do)

I can only suggest moving your site to a proper host - it will cost a bit 
more (I pay £19 a year - compared with a Freeparking fee of £4.99), but you 
have the advantage of...
1.  Getting a better Search engine placement
2.  You can give people links to individual pages with you site address if 
you need to - the address bar will show the true page name (another reason 
search engines have trouble - all pages have the same name and title with a 
parking)
3.  If you feel bold enough - you can set up a search system within the site 
using perl - I've done this, it works, but not too easy...
4.  Direct e-mail system based on your domain name.
5.  If you need to have some pages via a password for selected people - no 
problem.

Here's the one I use http://www.compila.com/pages/hosting/linuxindex.html - 
I have the "Bargain" - you might be able to do with the "Starter" at £12. 
(all packages will include your domain name renewal)

HTH,

Ron Jones
Process Safety & Development Specialist
Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near misses at
http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and
human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert
Einstein 




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