As a newbee you are talked to much, anyway it's free decitions everyone can have theirs opinion on this matters, but please do not provoke any un-healthy situation.
Best regards, A Djem -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Hölzel Sent: 15 Mei 2004 6:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Proofing Hi all, I fully support Elpidio Latorilla's sharp and negative reaction towards W. Goedert's Care2x.de project. Looking at the Care2x.de-Site one can hardly find any close assosiation with the Care2x Project at all. May I cite the main paragraph on the site concerning Care2x ? :: >> ""As you see CARE2x.de is no more only a mirror of the Care2x project. You may be astonished that there is a lot of content missed for the moment. To get more information browse through the menu if you like to get information about CARE2X browse the CARE2x resources at the main domains of CARE2x or a mirror for faster access. "" << First: the site is no mirror at all ! Second: No links, not even any hint to the many web-adresses of serious Care2x ressources !! Just "browse the Care2x resources..." is not enough for anyone, who is seeking for more information. So, that is close to sabotage, Wilfried ! It seems that you have hijacked the name Care2x for you personal (if may say that: diffuse) purposes. (Well done :-| you surely create more traffic on this domain name than on goedert.com or else....) Care2x.de does not give the impression of a well developed, far advanced, worldwide software project in such a critical field like medicine and health informatics. It looks like a gaming place of some information idealist...As german newbee looking for Care2x for the first time a would immediately change my interest... To my opinion CARE2x.de would be a german language resource for the Care2x project. Here information mainly in german language should be given, mainly german Care2x projects should be featured and referenced, mainly german health care issues (in respect to Care2x) should be discussed etc.... Please do not misunderstand: This is not german nationalistic attitude. It is only a question of logics, structure and transparency. So I ask Wilfried, not to run Care2x.de as his personal advertising panel and Typo3 experimental place. He should rather dedicate this site explicitly to Care2x, not less and not more. Otherwise Wilfried should pass over Care2x.de domain to the growing, but silent german Care2x community. Sorry, I had to say that. Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Proofing Hi all indeed, I propose a skunk mascot for the approach suggested by Roel: "The Skunk Works is a concentration of a few good people solving problems far in advance ......... by applying the simplest, most straightforward methods possible to develop and produce new products." - C. L. "Kelly" Johnson (1910 - 1990) Kelly Johnson's 14 Rules of Management: http://www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/kelly1.htm http://www.castingtrade.com/html/bookreview/skunk14rules.html http://www.valueshepherd.com/commentary/archaeology_skunk_works/archaeol ogy_skunk_works.htm Skunk Works Patterns: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SkunkWorkPatterns n.b. "Skunk Works" is trademarked by Lockheed Martin. From: Roel De Meester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Proofing At 09:03 AM 5/14/2004 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi all, > >I personally think Mr. Wilfried is doing a good thing on his site, but >the only concern i have is >about the domain name which brings some confusion. >My impression is that the current state of care2x.de is just an alpha version of some interesting >growing web-site, and that Mr. Wilfried is putting it public in order >for others [like care2x >developers] to see what he is aiming at. >After reading all archived mails of the last months i can clearly see >the good things that he has >contributed so i guess this care2x.de is another good contribution to care2x. > >My suggestion would be >* bring care2x.de back as mirror for European users >* register care2x-extra.org/de/com for plugins, extra info etc... and clearly state that it is not >the 'official' site >* keep link in care2x -> care2x-extra and visa versa > >OR >* Include the extra's and plugin info on the main website in another SubMenu and make Mr. >Wilfiried responsible for that section > > >Greetings > >BTW, if you think i should mind my own business as a newbie, please say >so. Than i will just go on >reading and learning and maybe contributing to care2x. > > > > --- Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wilfried, >> >> On Thursday 13 May 2004 12:21, Wilfried Goedert wrote: >> > EL> Are you preparing to make a fork of Care2x? >> > >> > Hahaha realy absolutely NO! >> > >> > sorry for crying. And if you look inside care2x.de you realy can >> > see that I don'nt make my own thing. >> >> Judging on the sarcasm and on the resulting analysis of the ramblings that you >> dumped in your reply, one can conclude that you have no intention of >> following the 3 minimum requirements I listed, not even one. >> >> So let us make it final now. >> >> §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§ >> >> You want to make it according to your wishes disregarding the danger >> of sowing >> confusion and eventually fragmenting the project. >> >> In this regard, let it be clear to all concerned that the care2x.de >> is a private move of Mr. Gödert and is totally independent of the >> Care2x project. >> Care2x has nothing more to do with care2x.de and will not sanction >> any information or claims done within that website. >> >> The information and references to Mr. Gödert within the Care2x's >> websites will be maintained since he rightfully earned the credits >> for his contributions to the project in the past. The information >> will remain as is >> unless he personally requests it to be removed. >> >> We are all free human beings, so anybody can work with him if one >> likes (or >> needs) to. It will not affect one's relationship to Care2x. However, >> one must >> keep in mind that care2x.de is NOT the Care2x project. Avoid interchanging >> the two. >> >> Let this closes this matter for good. >> §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§ >> >> I am fully aware that this might fragment the project. But I believe >> that it >> is better to do it now than later, otherwise we can never move on. It >> is impossible to satisfy every individual so the last resort is to >> let that individual free and go his own way. >> >> Respectfully, >> Elpidio Latorilla >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up >> now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection >> for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id%62&alloc_ida84&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Care2002-developers mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > >===== >God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up >now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection >for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Care2002-developers mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.683 / Virus Database: 445 - Release Date: 5/12/2004 > _____________________________________________ John Walling mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll see it when I believe it. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.683 / Virus Database: 445 - Release Date: 5/12/2004 > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click _______________________________________________ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click _______________________________________________ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
