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Guten Tag Alexander H�lzel,

am Samstag, 15. Mai 2004 um 01:20 schrieben Sie:

AH> Hi all,

AH> I fully support Elpidio Latorilla's sharp and negative reaction towards W.
AH> Goedert's Care2x.de project.

You are in the consortium this for background. http://www.mycare2x.de
This page don't link IMHO to the main care2x resources.

AH> Looking at the Care2x.de-Site one can hardly find any close assosiation with
AH> the Care2x Project at all.

AH> May I cite the main paragraph on the site concerning Care2x ? ::
>>>
AH> ""As you see CARE2x.de is no more only a mirror of the Care2x project. You
AH> may be astonished that there is a lot of content missed for the moment. To
AH> get more information browse through the menu if you like to get information
AH> about CARE2X browse the CARE2x resources at the main domains of CARE2x or a
AH> mirror for faster access. ""
AH> <<

AH> First: the site is no mirror at all !
AH> Second: No links, not even any hint to the many web-adresses of serious
AH> Care2x ressources !!

What you see is a news ticker about the changes at care2x.de this
newsticker gives later developers a fast few what is interesting to
them. This is an easy extension and have not the possibility to set
links without hacking the code. After a few more news you find this in
the archive.

Three short page news - these are changing. Under them you find at the
moment nothing.

AH> Just "browse the Care2x resources..." is not enough for anyone, who is
AH> seeking for more information.

This is to bring a care2x newcommer realy directly to the main
resource.

AH> So, that is close to sabotage, Wilfried !

Why. Realy at the startpage someone find some page news - changing to
the next navigation "What is CARE2x?" from this page i push him
directely to the care2x main resources.

At the visible page of care2x for everyone there have to be as less
information as possible. They can go to the main resources eg:
care2x.net , com org.

Developers that like to get informed about new ideas tools, scripts
interesting source codes installlation ideas can login with their user
name.
At a later point than the complete navigation changes. they can also
choose again navigation groups. For example they choose the group
inside to intranet setup. Inside intranet setup they change to the
group security and the navigation shows only information about their
interest. -> intranetsetup and security.

So you can provide thousands of pages without loosing orientation of
the navigation. If you are not logged in the pages are visible so you
can bookmark things to your browser. But you have the navigation as a
non registered user.

AH> It seems that you have hijacked the name Care2x for you personal (if may say
AH> that: diffuse) purposes. (Well done :-| you surely create more traffic on
AH> this domain name than on goedert.com or else....)

Wrong my personal and private homepage have to much traffic. I
everytime try to reduce it. And goedert com i am not the owner as far
as i remember :-)

There was a time that my private homepage had 700 000 pageviews per
week. I am realy happy that this time is gone.

AH> Care2x.de does not give the impression of a well developed, far advanced,
AH> worldwide software project in such a critical field like medicine and health
AH> informatics. It looks like a gaming place of some information idealist...As
AH> german newbee looking for Care2x for the first time a would immediately
AH> change my interest...

Push your information in the search engines. Invest time, money or
both and you have success. I did the same for care2x.de

AH> To my opinion CARE2x.de would be a german language resource for the Care2x
AH> project.

Do you need access to implement the scripts for multilanguage?


AH> Here information mainly in german language should be given, mainly
AH> german Care2x projects should be featured and referenced, mainly german
AH> health care issues (in respect to Care2x) should be discussed etc....

So why you don't write this in the German care2x mailing list and let
it discuss there?
If the multilang. version is ready it is flexible enough.

Anyways if you have a project and like to put it here. You are
wellcome. You sudenly get access and the full power of possibilities
this CMS is able to give.

The same is your company or the consortium can be listed: some example
http://typo3.org/about/references/

http://typo3.org/about/consultancies-hosting/

OK this have to be adapted to care2x related stuff, because it is not
the same.

AH> Please do not misunderstand: This is not german nationalistic attitude. It
AH> is only a question of logics, structure and transparency.

hmmm first i thought to setup it in German as main language. I
did..... and in the mailinglist i posted about it.

AH> Otherwise Wilfried should pass over Care2x.de domain to the growing, but
AH> silent german Care2x community.

I offer everyone to bring input. I have no problems with it. The
German community is wellcome. The system is designed for it.
But i wouldn't like to exclude other nations or developers that like
to bring input without the background of a company or company
interest.
If a company like to bring input they are free to offer their
services and if its useful content... not a problem.

They way is this: Needs only to be configured:
Someone registers as a normal user. Than he is in the General User
Group
When he is logged in than a link what is not in the menue before is
available. He can register a consulty or something else. Than he is
in the Genaral User Group and additional the Consulties User Group.

A neutral link and information page about every consulties is provided
to everyone. Its also possible that different consulties can work
together. Share information and services.

Why to give this possibilities only to Germans? It is a neutral
listing and information. The companies can advertise a link to their
own webpage. There is a automatic script includet. If there is no
activity inside an account, then after 100 days a Mail is sending out,
to ask if there is the service or consulties still available.
If there is no more login after a time the information and the user
are automaticely deleted. Once have to register again.

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