Ah, JVM stats. Thanks for that tip: I really wasn't looking at my memory 
closely enough, and I still had a -Xmx128m set (tomcat7 default in ubuntu). 
I bumped it to 1g (actually this time, confirmed via /status this time) so 
I'm hoping this helps resolve.

/status wasn't working for localhost by default, but this was due to IPv6 
on my end. Would you be open to changing the 
default cas.securityContext.adminpages.ip=(127\.0\.0\.1|0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1) to 
support IPv6 localhost?

I'm planning on throwing on a lot more memory monitoring near future. I'm 
assuming this would be a very likely root cause for these sorts off issues 
- sorry I didn't catch that earlier.

Hoping this is the ticket (hurr hurr) - I'll let you know if anything else 
interesting comes up, but I really appreciate your support!

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 10:40:07 AM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote:
>
> Thanks for the submission. 
>
> That should suffice. Watch your server logs as well, and keep an eye up 
> JVM performance and stats. 
>
> -- 
> Misagh
>
> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Date: August 25, 2016 at 9:43:21 AM
> To: CAS Community <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Cc: [email protected] <javascript:> <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2? 
>
> OK, thanks for the confirmation. I sent in a ticket about it. 
>
> As for the original issue, I'll continue to monitor to see if I detect 
> anything on my end. Aside from a full debug on the jasig.cas namespace, 
> would there be any other library/namespace that would be beneficial to 
> include in the logs?
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 10:34:11 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>
>> You’re right. There seems to be a problem, but it’s not a cleanup 
>> problem. Your logs actually show all 10 tickets are being removed 
>> correctly. If you scan through, you’ll find “Removing ticket [TGT-…]” 5 
>> times and you’ll find "Removed ticket [ST-…” 5 times. 
>>
>> The count is inconsistent; because orphaned STs are counted and deleted 
>> separately. STs that are attached to a TGT are not counted, yet are cleaned 
>> when the TGT is removed. So in effect, you have 5 TGTs removed, 2 orphaned 
>> STs (counting up to 7 in the final output) and other STs are removed as 
>> part of those TGTs which you see the removal in the logs but not in the 
>> final count of them. 
>>
>> Do file a bug please.
>>
>> Back to the original issue; the cleanup process seems all correct. The 
>> issue lies somewhere else.
>>
>> -- 
>> Misagh
>>
>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>> Date: August 24, 2016 at 2:20:36 PM
>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>
>> I'm still getting inconsistent ST cleanup summaries using 4.2.5-SNAPSHOT 
>> with the default in memory cleaner - See the attached log. 
>>
>> Note that all service tickets are found for cleanup, but only two here 
>> have logged "Attempting to retrieve ticket". It appears in this version 
>> that all service tickets are found, but only are two are 'expired' at the 
>> point where the TGTs expire.
>>
>> Again, this is despite having st.timeToKillInSeconds=600. The default 
>> registry does 2 minutes pass per clean - the STs should all be expiring 
>> when the TGTs expire (if I'm understanding correctly) - otherwise, they 
>> should expire when timeToKillInSeconds passes. In this case 10 minutes.
>>
>> Assuming the STs expire on their own, I waited 10 minutes:
>>
>> grep "expired tickets found and removed." cas.log:
>>
>> 2016-08-24 16:47:21,814 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 7 expired tickets 
>> found and removed. <- 5 TGTs + 2 STs, the last line of the attached log
>> 2016-08-24 16:49:21,714 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 16:51:21,718 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 16:53:21,723 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 16:55:21,715 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 16:57:21,712 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 16:59:21,715 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 17:01:21,717 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 17:03:21,711 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 17:05:21,711 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 17:07:21,711 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 17:09:21,711 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>> 2016-08-24 17:11:21,713 INFO 
>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
>> found and removed.
>>
>> The 3 floating STs should have expired somewhere, but don't appear to be.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 8:54:29 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>>
>>> Cool. Thanks for the report. I can run some tests on this, and it would 
>>> be more reassuring if you were to switch to 4.2.5-SNAPSHOT and test the 
>>> latest patch that William has put together that handles this sort of thing. 
>>>  If the problem persists, we could further review it before the official 
>>> 4.2.5, which is in about 10 days. 
>>>
>>> In 4.2.5, the cleanup logic is shared by all registry types. So the 
>>> behavior is made consistent across all where the task of ticket removal is 
>>> then delegated to the individual registry that knows how to talk to the 
>>> source. I suggest that you run your same batch of tests against that 
>>> baseline, and if you still see the issue, please post back. 
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Misagh
>>>
>>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>> Date: August 23, 2016 at 2:33:34 PM
>>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>>
>>> Also to note, switching to JPA under the same circumstances, I can 
>>> confirm that all 10 tickets are consistently reporting in as cleaned (ran 
>>> over multiple tests). Definitely seems like there's something strange with 
>>> the in memory ticketing cleaner. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 2:04:51 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Wong wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> Ah, looks to be that the PT fix won't affect my issues then - Let me 
>>>> clarify how I'm doing my testing in that case: 
>>>>
>>>> I'm creating a new session (new cookie map) with every login, over the 
>>>> same user. I'm scraping the lt, execution, and _eventId off of the initial 
>>>> payload, and making a post request with those parameters with 
>>>> username+password.
>>>>
>>>> In the logs, each login creates a new TGT (since I'm not sharing 
>>>> cookies per request, I'll have a unique TGT per login) and a new ST. I've 
>>>> turned on debugs and can confirm that with a series of 5 logins, 5 TGT and 
>>>> 5 STs are created. I turned st.timeToKillInSeconds way down (10) to ensure 
>>>> cleanup of all tickets on the next cleaning run. In this test case above, 
>>>> I 
>>>> would expect a total of 10 tickets to be cleaned up on the next cleaner 
>>>> run.
>>>>
>>>> During cleanup, I appear to be missing a count of a ST or two. It 
>>>> occasionally claims between 7 and 9 tickets cleaned. I've counted all 5 
>>>> TGTs, but the STs appear to only occasionally be cleaned up fully.
>>>>
>>>> To ensure that STs aren't expiring on their own somehow and are 
>>>> strictly expiring as children of TGTs, I have the following settings:
>>>> tgt.timeToKillInSeconds=10
>>>> st.timeToKillInSeconds=600
>>>>
>>>> It's my understanding that when a TGT gets cleaned, that all STs 
>>>> associated with that TGT are also cleaned up as well, but it doesn't 
>>>> appear 
>>>> that this is the case.
>>>>
>>>> My worry is that there's an orphaned ST in memory somewhere still 
>>>> floating around memory, which would be OK if I were ticketing through ORM, 
>>>> as I could audit active tickets directly in sql, or remove them myself. I 
>>>> think in the meantime, I'll move production ticketing to a (slower, but 
>>>> more easily auditable) ORM solution. I wanted to let you know what I'm 
>>>> seeing on my end in case this is a weird edge case in the cleaner.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 10:13:38 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>> I hate to say this, but it depends! It depends what you mean by login, 
>>>>> and it depends what you mean by 10 :) 
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we start to discuss the answer to the ultimate question of 
>>>>> life, the universe, and everything let me explode this a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you log into CAS, you get a TGT. You get an SSO session. That TGT 
>>>>> remains alive so long you don’t log out and so long its expiration policy 
>>>>> says it should live. For every application you log into, you will get an 
>>>>> ST. The application ideally keeps track of the user session so it 
>>>>> wouldn’t 
>>>>> have to ask for more STs every time you refresh its page for instance. So:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you log in 10 times to 10 different apps, you get 1 TGT and 10 STs. 
>>>>> If the act of logging in requires you to present credentials every time, 
>>>>> (i.e. renew=true) then that’s still in the end 1 TGTs and 10 STs active 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> legible for clean up, because every time you generate a new TGT, the old 
>>>>> one is immediately killed and destroyed and it will not show up in the 
>>>>> clean up log. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The cleanup process cleans expired tickets. Regardless of the ticket 
>>>>> type. Doesn’t matter of it’s a TGT, ST, OC, etc. There are many many 
>>>>> other 
>>>>> types. All you have to remember is, if it’s expired, it gets removed at 
>>>>> certain intervals. The only exception to this rule is, proxy-tickets are 
>>>>> not removed by the clean up process when you “logout” forcefully, and 
>>>>> this 
>>>>> something that is fixed in the next patch release, thanks to William. But 
>>>>> you’re not using PTs, so... 
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Misagh
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: August 22, 2016 at 3:50:03 PM
>>>>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not making use of proxy granting tickets, but I'll report back if 
>>>>> it's still an issue once 2.2.5 drops. 
>>>>>
>>>>> In the version that I have currently deployed, the counts on the 
>>>>> tickets themselves seem strange to me - When I log in 10 times, that's 10 
>>>>> TGTs and 10 STs, correct? So I should expect 20 tickets to be cleaned up, 
>>>>> rather than 15. If it's only counting TGTs, then I should have 10 tickets 
>>>>> total.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've turned on debugging, and will be monitoring this issue for when 
>>>>> it happens again, and let you know what I see in the logs. Meanwhile, can 
>>>>> you confirm or correct my understanding of the current ticket cleanup 
>>>>> log? 
>>>>> It looks pretty strange from my end.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 11:24:12 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All expired tickets are removed by the cleaner, regardless of type. 
>>>>>> Come to think of it, do you use CAS for its proxy authentication 
>>>>>> features? 
>>>>>> That *might* have something to do with it, if you do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally don’t know if I’d recommend switching, because I don’t 
>>>>>> know what the problem is. Generally, switching to something more robust 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> distributed is a good idea, but if the problem is something else, it 
>>>>>> will 
>>>>>> simply repeat and your new registry will have done nothing to fix it. I 
>>>>>> would instead turn up logs, load test as much as possible and keep it 
>>>>>> running under test for some time. Observe.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Misagh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: July 20, 2016 at 3:27:17 PM
>>>>>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grepping through what I have, I can confirm that the tickets are 
>>>>>> being removed, as I do have log statements like the following: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> catalina.out.2.gz:2016-07-08 22:19:31,948 INFO 
>>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - <1 expired 
>>>>>> tickets 
>>>>>> found and removed.>
>>>>>> catalina.out.2.gz:2016-07-08 22:21:32,004 INFO 
>>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - <2 expired 
>>>>>> tickets 
>>>>>> found and removed.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using the default in memory registry, the default 
>>>>>> tgt.maxTimeToLiveInSeconds + tgt.timeToKillInSeconds. 
>>>>>> st.timeToKillInSeconds=60.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other pretty bare bones defaults:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <alias name="serviceThemeResolver" alias="themeResolver" />           
>>>>>>                                                                          
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>                                                          
>>>>>> <alias name="jsonServiceRegistryDao" alias="serviceRegistryDao" />   
>>>>>>                                                                          
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>                                                           
>>>>>> <alias name="defaultTicketRegistry" alias="ticketRegistry" />         
>>>>>>                                                                          
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>                                                          
>>>>>> <alias name="ticketGrantingTicketExpirationPolicy" 
>>>>>> alias="grantingTicketExpirationPolicy" />
>>>>>> <alias name="multiTimeUseOrTimeoutExpirationPolicy" 
>>>>>> alias="serviceTicketExpirationPolicy" />
>>>>>> <alias name="anyAuthenticationPolicy" alias="authenticationPolicy" /> 
>>>>>>                                                                          
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>                                                          
>>>>>> <alias name="acceptAnyAuthenticationPolicyFactory" 
>>>>>> alias="authenticationPolicyFactory" />
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you recommend perhaps a different ticket registry at this point 
>>>>>> perhaps? I don't think I'm hitting the maximum amount of tickets that 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> default ticket registry can hold by any means, since the maximum amount 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> tickets I'm seeing expire is 20. Mostly it's between 0-2 tickets that 
>>>>>> are 
>>>>>> expired, so I very much doubt the tickets being the memory bottleneck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before I posted the above, I dug a little and noticed a strange ~200 
>>>>>> tickets being cleaned up a bit before the issue (an uptick in cleanup 
>>>>>> tickets). Perhaps moving to a more robust ticket registry (not just in 
>>>>>> memory) might actually help to mitigate then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are service tickets also being cleaned up with the same default 
>>>>>> ticket registry? What tickets should show up in that 'expired' count? 
>>>>>> TGT 
>>>>>> only, or TGT + STs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For testing, I logged in to a test instance where the tgt expirey was 
>>>>>> set to 10 seconds. 10 times: 15 expired tickets. I logged in 20 times. 
>>>>>> 29 
>>>>>> expired tickets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What other items are included in the expired count?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:31:37 AM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does your log show that tickets are cleaned up successfully? Is your 
>>>>>>> expiration policy set up to allow the cleaner to expire and clean 
>>>>>>> tickets 
>>>>>>> successfully? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without logs, it’s just a guessing game. My bet is, somehow you’ve 
>>>>>>> run out of memory. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Misagh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: July 19, 2016 at 3:10:05 PM
>>>>>>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject:  [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After about a month of working perfectly on 4.2.2 deployed to 
>>>>>>> tomcat7, running under java8, randomly the in-memory ticketing system 
>>>>>>> would 
>>>>>>> not create any more tickets. Restarting the tomcat instance fixed it, 
>>>>>>> but 
>>>>>>> I'm wondering why CAS would randomly break on me after working so well! 
>>>>>>> Using a LDAP (AD) backed user base with a mysql backed attribute DB. We 
>>>>>>> have pretty minimal traffic, so I'm not sure why I am seeing issues 
>>>>>>> after 
>>>>>>> such a small amount of time. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Despite having an <AsyncRoot level="error">, no errors have been 
>>>>>>> thrown at the time of issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I've only had the org.springframework.jdbc logger set 
>>>>>>> to debug, and all others at info, so I have very minimal logging around 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm noticing both the ldap auth AND the jdbc handlers returning 
>>>>>>> without issues (no errors). ...But no tickets?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a sample of the logs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,399 INFO 
>>>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.authentication.PolicyBasedAuthenticationManager] - 
>>>>>>> <LdapAuthenticationHandler successfully authenticated user1> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,400 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>>> SQL query> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,400 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>>> SQL statement[SELECT ID,username,FirstName,LastName,Email FROM User 
>>>>>>> WHERE UserName = ?]> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,400 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Fetching 
>>>>>>> JDBC Connection from DataSource> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,401 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Returning 
>>>>>>> JDBC Connection to DataSource> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 INFO 
>>>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.authentication.PolicyBasedAuthenticationManager] - 
>>>>>>> <LdapAuthenticationHandler successfully authenticated user2> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>>> SQL query> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>>> SQL statement[SELECT ID,username,FirstName,LastName,Email FROM User 
>>>>>>> WHERE UserName = ?]> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Fetching 
>>>>>>> JDBC Connection from DataSource> 
>>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,017 DEBUG 
>>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Returning 
>>>>>>> JDBC Connection to DataSource> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Immediately before this, I've seen tickets that are created (an 
>>>>>>> audit log is posted that a ticket granting ticket has been created and 
>>>>>>> validated, and all is good). There are no exceptions thrown between 
>>>>>>> when 
>>>>>>> the tickets were able to be created and when there was this bottleneck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the front end, after the logs say 'success' without a ticket 
>>>>>>> created, they are redirected to the main cas login page. Reproducing 
>>>>>>> this is also difficult as it will stop intermittently, without 
>>>>>>> warning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are the best ways to debug or resolve these sorts of issues? 
>>>>>>> What could be causing this issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> Jeff
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