OK, thanks for the confirmation. I sent in a ticket about it.

As for the original issue, I'll continue to monitor to see if I detect 
anything on my end. Aside from a full debug on the jasig.cas namespace, 
would there be any other library/namespace that would be beneficial to 
include in the logs?

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 10:34:11 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote:
>
> You’re right. There seems to be a problem, but it’s not a cleanup problem. 
> Your logs actually show all 10 tickets are being removed correctly. If 
> you scan through, you’ll find “Removing ticket [TGT-…]” 5 times and you’ll 
> find "Removed ticket [ST-…” 5 times. 
>
> The count is inconsistent; because orphaned STs are counted and deleted 
> separately. STs that are attached to a TGT are not counted, yet are cleaned 
> when the TGT is removed. So in effect, you have 5 TGTs removed, 2 orphaned 
> STs (counting up to 7 in the final output) and other STs are removed as 
> part of those TGTs which you see the removal in the logs but not in the 
> final count of them. 
>
> Do file a bug please.
>
> Back to the original issue; the cleanup process seems all correct. The 
> issue lies somewhere else.
>
> -- 
> Misagh
>
> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Date: August 24, 2016 at 2:20:36 PM
> To: CAS Community <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Cc: [email protected] <javascript:> <[email protected]> <javascript:>
> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2? 
>
> I'm still getting inconsistent ST cleanup summaries using 4.2.5-SNAPSHOT 
> with the default in memory cleaner - See the attached log. 
>
> Note that all service tickets are found for cleanup, but only two here 
> have logged "Attempting to retrieve ticket". It appears in this version 
> that all service tickets are found, but only are two are 'expired' at the 
> point where the TGTs expire.
>
> Again, this is despite having st.timeToKillInSeconds=600. The default 
> registry does 2 minutes pass per clean - the STs should all be expiring 
> when the TGTs expire (if I'm understanding correctly) - otherwise, they 
> should expire when timeToKillInSeconds passes. In this case 10 minutes.
>
> Assuming the STs expire on their own, I waited 10 minutes:
>
> grep "expired tickets found and removed." cas.log:
>
> 2016-08-24 16:47:21,814 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 7 expired tickets 
> found and removed. <- 5 TGTs + 2 STs, the last line of the attached log
> 2016-08-24 16:49:21,714 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 16:51:21,718 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 16:53:21,723 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 16:55:21,715 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 16:57:21,712 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 16:59:21,715 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 17:01:21,717 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 17:03:21,711 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 17:05:21,711 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 17:07:21,711 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 17:09:21,711 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
> 2016-08-24 17:11:21,713 INFO 
> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - 0 expired tickets 
> found and removed.
>
> The 3 floating STs should have expired somewhere, but don't appear to be.
>
> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 8:54:29 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>
>> Cool. Thanks for the report. I can run some tests on this, and it would 
>> be more reassuring if you were to switch to 4.2.5-SNAPSHOT and test the 
>> latest patch that William has put together that handles this sort of thing. 
>>  If the problem persists, we could further review it before the official 
>> 4.2.5, which is in about 10 days. 
>>
>> In 4.2.5, the cleanup logic is shared by all registry types. So the 
>> behavior is made consistent across all where the task of ticket removal is 
>> then delegated to the individual registry that knows how to talk to the 
>> source. I suggest that you run your same batch of tests against that 
>> baseline, and if you still see the issue, please post back. 
>>
>> -- 
>> Misagh
>>
>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>> Date: August 23, 2016 at 2:33:34 PM
>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>
>> Also to note, switching to JPA under the same circumstances, I can 
>> confirm that all 10 tickets are consistently reporting in as cleaned (ran 
>> over multiple tests). Definitely seems like there's something strange with 
>> the in memory ticketing cleaner. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 2:04:51 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Wong wrote: 
>>>
>>> Ah, looks to be that the PT fix won't affect my issues then - Let me 
>>> clarify how I'm doing my testing in that case: 
>>>
>>> I'm creating a new session (new cookie map) with every login, over the 
>>> same user. I'm scraping the lt, execution, and _eventId off of the initial 
>>> payload, and making a post request with those parameters with 
>>> username+password.
>>>
>>> In the logs, each login creates a new TGT (since I'm not sharing cookies 
>>> per request, I'll have a unique TGT per login) and a new ST. I've turned on 
>>> debugs and can confirm that with a series of 5 logins, 5 TGT and 5 STs are 
>>> created. I turned st.timeToKillInSeconds way down (10) to ensure cleanup of 
>>> all tickets on the next cleaning run. In this test case above, I would 
>>> expect a total of 10 tickets to be cleaned up on the next cleaner run.
>>>
>>> During cleanup, I appear to be missing a count of a ST or two. It 
>>> occasionally claims between 7 and 9 tickets cleaned. I've counted all 5 
>>> TGTs, but the STs appear to only occasionally be cleaned up fully.
>>>
>>> To ensure that STs aren't expiring on their own somehow and are strictly 
>>> expiring as children of TGTs, I have the following settings:
>>> tgt.timeToKillInSeconds=10
>>> st.timeToKillInSeconds=600
>>>
>>> It's my understanding that when a TGT gets cleaned, that all STs 
>>> associated with that TGT are also cleaned up as well, but it doesn't appear 
>>> that this is the case.
>>>
>>> My worry is that there's an orphaned ST in memory somewhere still 
>>> floating around memory, which would be OK if I were ticketing through ORM, 
>>> as I could audit active tickets directly in sql, or remove them myself. I 
>>> think in the meantime, I'll move production ticketing to a (slower, but 
>>> more easily auditable) ORM solution. I wanted to let you know what I'm 
>>> seeing on my end in case this is a weird edge case in the cleaner.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 10:13:38 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> I hate to say this, but it depends! It depends what you mean by login, 
>>>> and it depends what you mean by 10 :) 
>>>>
>>>> Before we start to discuss the answer to the ultimate question of life, 
>>>> the universe, and everything let me explode this a bit.
>>>>
>>>> When you log into CAS, you get a TGT. You get an SSO session. That TGT 
>>>> remains alive so long you don’t log out and so long its expiration policy 
>>>> says it should live. For every application you log into, you will get an 
>>>> ST. The application ideally keeps track of the user session so it wouldn’t 
>>>> have to ask for more STs every time you refresh its page for instance. So:
>>>>
>>>> If you log in 10 times to 10 different apps, you get 1 TGT and 10 STs. 
>>>> If the act of logging in requires you to present credentials every time, 
>>>> (i.e. renew=true) then that’s still in the end 1 TGTs and 10 STs active 
>>>> and 
>>>> legible for clean up, because every time you generate a new TGT, the old 
>>>> one is immediately killed and destroyed and it will not show up in the 
>>>> clean up log. 
>>>>
>>>> The cleanup process cleans expired tickets. Regardless of the ticket 
>>>> type. Doesn’t matter of it’s a TGT, ST, OC, etc. There are many many other 
>>>> types. All you have to remember is, if it’s expired, it gets removed at 
>>>> certain intervals. The only exception to this rule is, proxy-tickets are 
>>>> not removed by the clean up process when you “logout” forcefully, and this 
>>>> something that is fixed in the next patch release, thanks to William. But 
>>>> you’re not using PTs, so... 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Misagh
>>>>
>>>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: August 22, 2016 at 3:50:03 PM
>>>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>>>
>>>> I am not making use of proxy granting tickets, but I'll report back if 
>>>> it's still an issue once 2.2.5 drops. 
>>>>
>>>> In the version that I have currently deployed, the counts on the 
>>>> tickets themselves seem strange to me - When I log in 10 times, that's 10 
>>>> TGTs and 10 STs, correct? So I should expect 20 tickets to be cleaned up, 
>>>> rather than 15. If it's only counting TGTs, then I should have 10 tickets 
>>>> total.
>>>>
>>>> I've turned on debugging, and will be monitoring this issue for when it 
>>>> happens again, and let you know what I see in the logs. Meanwhile, can you 
>>>> confirm or correct my understanding of the current ticket cleanup log? It 
>>>> looks pretty strange from my end.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 11:24:12 PM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>> All expired tickets are removed by the cleaner, regardless of type. 
>>>>> Come to think of it, do you use CAS for its proxy authentication 
>>>>> features? 
>>>>> That *might* have something to do with it, if you do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally don’t know if I’d recommend switching, because I don’t 
>>>>> know what the problem is. Generally, switching to something more robust 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> distributed is a good idea, but if the problem is something else, it will 
>>>>> simply repeat and your new registry will have done nothing to fix it. I 
>>>>> would instead turn up logs, load test as much as possible and keep it 
>>>>> running under test for some time. Observe.  
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Misagh
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: July 20, 2016 at 3:27:17 PM
>>>>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject:  Re: [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>>>>
>>>>> Grepping through what I have, I can confirm that the tickets are being 
>>>>> removed, as I do have log statements like the following: 
>>>>>
>>>>> catalina.out.2.gz:2016-07-08 22:19:31,948 INFO 
>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - <1 expired 
>>>>> tickets 
>>>>> found and removed.>
>>>>> catalina.out.2.gz:2016-07-08 22:21:32,004 INFO 
>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.ticket.registry.DefaultTicketRegistry] - <2 expired 
>>>>> tickets 
>>>>> found and removed.>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using the default in memory registry, the default 
>>>>> tgt.maxTimeToLiveInSeconds + tgt.timeToKillInSeconds. 
>>>>> st.timeToKillInSeconds=60.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other pretty bare bones defaults:
>>>>>
>>>>> <alias name="serviceThemeResolver" alias="themeResolver" />           
>>>>>                                                                           
>>>>>   
>>>>>                                                          
>>>>> <alias name="jsonServiceRegistryDao" alias="serviceRegistryDao" />     
>>>>>                                                                           
>>>>>   
>>>>>                                                         
>>>>> <alias name="defaultTicketRegistry" alias="ticketRegistry" />         
>>>>>                                                                           
>>>>>   
>>>>>                                                          
>>>>> <alias name="ticketGrantingTicketExpirationPolicy" 
>>>>> alias="grantingTicketExpirationPolicy" />
>>>>> <alias name="multiTimeUseOrTimeoutExpirationPolicy" 
>>>>> alias="serviceTicketExpirationPolicy" />
>>>>> <alias name="anyAuthenticationPolicy" alias="authenticationPolicy" /> 
>>>>>                                                                           
>>>>>   
>>>>>                                                          
>>>>> <alias name="acceptAnyAuthenticationPolicyFactory" 
>>>>> alias="authenticationPolicyFactory" />
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you recommend perhaps a different ticket registry at this point 
>>>>> perhaps? I don't think I'm hitting the maximum amount of tickets that the 
>>>>> default ticket registry can hold by any means, since the maximum amount 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> tickets I'm seeing expire is 20. Mostly it's between 0-2 tickets that are 
>>>>> expired, so I very much doubt the tickets being the memory bottleneck.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Before I posted the above, I dug a little and noticed a strange ~200 
>>>>> tickets being cleaned up a bit before the issue (an uptick in cleanup 
>>>>> tickets). Perhaps moving to a more robust ticket registry (not just in 
>>>>> memory) might actually help to mitigate then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are service tickets also being cleaned up with the same default ticket 
>>>>> registry? What tickets should show up in that 'expired' count? TGT only, 
>>>>> or 
>>>>> TGT + STs?
>>>>>
>>>>> For testing, I logged in to a test instance where the tgt expirey was 
>>>>> set to 10 seconds. 10 times: 15 expired tickets. I logged in 20 times. 29 
>>>>> expired tickets.
>>>>>
>>>>> What other items are included in the expired count?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 2:31:37 AM UTC-7, Misagh Moayyed wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does your log show that tickets are cleaned up successfully? Is your 
>>>>>> expiration policy set up to allow the cleaner to expire and clean 
>>>>>> tickets 
>>>>>> successfully? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without logs, it’s just a guessing game. My bet is, somehow you’ve 
>>>>>> run out of memory. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Misagh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Reply: Jeffrey Wong <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: July 19, 2016 at 3:10:05 PM
>>>>>> To: CAS Community <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject:  [cas-user] After a month, no tickets created in 4.2.2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After about a month of working perfectly on 4.2.2 deployed to 
>>>>>> tomcat7, running under java8, randomly the in-memory ticketing system 
>>>>>> would 
>>>>>> not create any more tickets. Restarting the tomcat instance fixed it, 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> I'm wondering why CAS would randomly break on me after working so well! 
>>>>>> Using a LDAP (AD) backed user base with a mysql backed attribute DB. We 
>>>>>> have pretty minimal traffic, so I'm not sure why I am seeing issues 
>>>>>> after 
>>>>>> such a small amount of time. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Despite having an <AsyncRoot level="error">, no errors have been 
>>>>>> thrown at the time of issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I've only had the org.springframework.jdbc logger set 
>>>>>> to debug, and all others at info, so I have very minimal logging around 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm noticing both the ldap auth AND the jdbc handlers returning 
>>>>>> without issues (no errors). ...But no tickets?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a sample of the logs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,399 INFO 
>>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.authentication.PolicyBasedAuthenticationManager] - 
>>>>>> <LdapAuthenticationHandler successfully authenticated user1> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,400 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>> SQL query> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,400 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>> SQL statement[SELECT ID,username,FirstName,LastName,Email FROM User 
>>>>>> WHERE UserName = ?]> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,400 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Fetching 
>>>>>> JDBC Connection from DataSource> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:16,401 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Returning 
>>>>>> JDBC Connection to DataSource> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 INFO 
>>>>>> [org.jasig.cas.authentication.PolicyBasedAuthenticationManager] - 
>>>>>> <LdapAuthenticationHandler successfully authenticated user2> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>> SQL query> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.core.JdbcTemplate] - <Executing prepared 
>>>>>> SQL statement[SELECT ID,username,FirstName,LastName,Email FROM User 
>>>>>> WHERE UserName = ?]> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,015 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Fetching 
>>>>>> JDBC Connection from DataSource> 
>>>>>> 2016-07-19 16:28:19,017 DEBUG 
>>>>>> [org.springframework.jdbc.datasource.DataSourceUtils] - <Returning 
>>>>>> JDBC Connection to DataSource> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Immediately before this, I've seen tickets that are created (an audit 
>>>>>> log is posted that a ticket granting ticket has been created and 
>>>>>> validated, 
>>>>>> and all is good). There are no exceptions thrown between when the 
>>>>>> tickets 
>>>>>> were able to be created and when there was this bottleneck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the front end, after the logs say 'success' without a ticket 
>>>>>> created, they are redirected to the main cas login page. Reproducing 
>>>>>> this is also difficult as it will stop intermittently, without 
>>>>>> warning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the best ways to debug or resolve these sorts of issues? 
>>>>>> What could be causing this issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Jeff
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