No, I just used "station-role workgroup-bridge" configured.  But you make a 
great point, it's good to try the different options together to find out what 
breaks what.


From: Jason Boyers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 8:19 AM
To: Jay Killion <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Andre Aubet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability

On the WGB, do you have "station-role workgroup-bridge multicast mode client" 
configured?  That is incompatible with the "infrastructure client" command on 
the root side.  I found it helpful to go through the different combinations 
("station-role workgroup-bridge" with and without the various multicast mode 
commands, with and without infrastructure client, and such) to ensure how 
things will and will not work.  There are some combinations that simply won't 
pass traffic.

Jason Boyers, CCIE #26024 (Wireless)
Blog: netboyers.wordpress.com<http://netboyers.wordpress.com>


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jay Killion (jakillio) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hey Andre -

Yes, the full requirement was, "Ensure that the association reliable. So the AP 
disassociates clients only many packets are lost. Use the maximum reliable 
setting for the association to stay up.".  Given that the word "reliable" and 
"reliability" are used 7 times in the CCO WGB documentation and every single 
one of them are in the section on "infrastructure client", I interpreted the 
requirement as wanting both "packet retries" and "infrastructure client".  But 
anyways…

Yes, I was using both "auth open" and "auth eap" for the SSID.  The WGB would 
associate and authenticate every time without any issue, even after rebooting 
both sides.  The instant I removed "infrastructure client" from the root side, 
without any further changes, the WGB side immediately received DHCP and pings 
started working.

I'm still not sure why it wouldn't work with "infrastructure client", but good 
to know for the future.


From: Andre Aubet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 1:50 AM
To: Jay Killion <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability

Hi Jay,

You really met an interesting behavior here!!!

I just read the complete lab requirement, it says:
Ensure that the association reliable. So the AP disassociates clients only many 
packets are lost. Use the maximum reliable setting for the association to stay 
up.

For this, I would have used the packet retries command I think. It allows the 
client entry to be removed only after a specified number of missed 802.11 
packets (maximum being 127 I think).

About the infrastructure client, what it actually does:

  *   sends a first time the multicast/broadcast frame, and re-send it in an 
encapsulated unicast frame to the WGB. It allows the frame to be acknowledged 
by the WGB.
  *   allows the WGB, which is normally treated as a wireless client, to 
associate to an infrastructure only AP

In your configuration, this is weird the WGB can't get an IP address. You say 
the association works fine, but the DHCP Discover isn't received by the DHCP 
server. If it didn't work with a static IP address, I would think something is 
missing in your configuration.

By any chance, were you using the authentication network-eap method to 
associate, or only authentication open eap. I think network-eap (Cisco 
proprietary) is a requirement when using an infrastructure mode.

Andre.


2014-02-06 Jay Killion (jakillio) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hi all -

I'm working on WB2 lab 3 and the following requirement was given for an 
autonomous WGB, "Ensure that the association is reliable."  I thought the 
question was looking for me to configure "infrastructure client" on the root AP 
since CCO documentation says to do this for "increased reliability".  Turns out 
that wasn't what the lab was looking for, but it did bring up an interesting 
result – no DHCP even though the WGB associated without any issue.

The other requirement for this task was to have the WGB receive it's IP address 
via DHCP.  I couldn't for the life of me figure out why DHCP wasn't working, as 
my debugs showed the AP sending them but never getting a reply (or being seen 
by the DHCP server).  Even if I configured a static IP address for the BVI, 
pings still wouldn't work.

I finally looked at the answer to see what I was missing and noticed IPX didn't 
use "infrastructure client" as part of their solution.  I removed that piece 
and everything immediately started working.  I've read what "infrastructure 
client" does – reliably deliver multicast and ARP's, but I don't see why this 
broke the ping / DHCP from the WGB.

Any insight?

Thanks
Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S


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