This is quite interesting... I've been playing around with this and I'm
replicating Jay's behavior.  I even wrote up AAP1's config from scratch as
I would do it on my own and still see the same thing.  I see the DHCP
request making it to the server, but the response evidently never makes it
back with the infrastructure-client command enabled.  Here are a few things
that I've tried.


   - On AAP2, I've tried all flavors of the WGB multicast mode with no
   change in behavior
   - I tried making VLAN 17 the native VLAN on AAP1 with no change in
   behavior
      - Tried making VL 17 native on just the radio interface as well as
      both the radio and the ethernet port
   - I set both the VLAN 17 interface on both the radio and ethernet port
   to be the native VLAN *AND *also assigned bridge-group 1 to the VL17
   sub-interfaces and then AAP2 pulled an IP address.  Of course this put
   AAP1's BVI on VL 17 as well.


So thus far, it seems to only work across bridge group 1 on AAP1 when the
infrastructure-client command is enabled.  At least in my testing.

Regards,



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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jay Killion (jakillio)
<[email protected]>wrote:

>   Hey Andre -
>
>  Attached are the configs from the two AP's (AAP 1 is the root, 2 is the
> WGB).  I just tried it again with the exact same results.  WGB will
> associate without any issue, but no DHCP (and if you assign a static, it
> won't ping).  Just remove 'infrastructure client' from the root and things
> will immediately start working.
>
>  I'm certainly interested to see what you find.
>
>  Thanks -
> Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S
>
>   From: Andre Aubet <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:28 AM
> To: Jay Killion <[email protected]>
> Cc: Jason Boyers <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability
>
>   Ok, I just tried to configure the whole thing:
>
>    - authentication open eap + authentication network-eap
>    - radius-server local on root AP
>    - DHCP server on core switch behind AP
>    - infrastructure-client on AP
>    - WGB using dot1x profile to authenticate on root AP
>    - DHCP client configured on WGB BVI1
>
> And all works fine. I added vlans in the WGB to act as a trunk link, and I
> can ping many clients behind my WGB in different vlans.
>
>  I'm sure there is a specific command interacting with the
> infrastructure-client that made your association/authentication fail.
> Unless the radio was buggy, and when you removed the infrastructure-client
> command, if forced the radio interface to reset.
>
>
> 2014-02-06 Andre Aubet <[email protected]>:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>>  Can you share your full configuration for the two APs? I just tried
>> myself to configure a WGB using infrastructure-client on the root AP, but
>> it works great.
>>
>>  Andre.
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-06 Jay Killion (jakillio) <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>  No, I just used "station-role workgroup-bridge" configured.  But you
>>> make a great point, it's good to try the different options together to find
>>> out what breaks what.
>>>
>>>
>>>   From: Jason Boyers <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 8:19 AM
>>> To: Jay Killion <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Andre Aubet <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability
>>>
>>>   On the WGB, do you have "station-role workgroup-bridge multicast mode
>>> client" configured?  That is incompatible with the "infrastructure client"
>>> command on the root side.  I found it helpful to go through the different
>>> combinations ("station-role workgroup-bridge" with and without the various
>>> multicast mode commands, with and without infrastructure client, and such)
>>> to ensure how things will and will not work.  There are some combinations
>>> that simply won't pass traffic.
>>>
>>> Jason Boyers, CCIE #26024 (Wireless)
>>> Blog: netboyers.wordpress.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jay Killion (jakillio) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hey Andre -
>>>>
>>>>  Yes, the full requirement was, "Ensure that the association reliable.
>>>> So the AP disassociates clients only many packets are lost. Use the maximum
>>>> reliable setting for the association to stay up.".  Given that the word
>>>> "reliable" and "reliability" are used 7 times in the CCO WGB documentation
>>>> and *every single one* of them are in the section on "infrastructure
>>>> client", I interpreted the requirement as wanting both "packet retries" and
>>>> "infrastructure client".  But anyways...
>>>>
>>>>  Yes, I was using both "auth open" and "auth eap" for the SSID.  The
>>>> WGB would associate and authenticate every time without any issue, even
>>>> after rebooting both sides.  The instant I removed "infrastructure client"
>>>> from the root side, without any further changes, the WGB side immediately
>>>> received DHCP and pings started working.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm still not sure why it wouldn't work with "infrastructure client",
>>>> but good to know for the future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   From: Andre Aubet <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 1:50 AM
>>>> To: Jay Killion <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability
>>>>
>>>>   Hi Jay,
>>>>
>>>>  You really met an interesting behavior here!!!
>>>>
>>>>  I just read the complete lab requirement, it says:
>>>>  Ensure that the association reliable. So the AP disassociates clients
>>>> only many packets are lost. Use the maximum reliable setting for the
>>>> association to stay up.
>>>>
>>>>  For this, I would have used the packet retries command I think. It
>>>> allows the client entry to be removed only after a specified number of
>>>> missed 802.11 packets (maximum being 127 I think).
>>>>
>>>>  About the infrastructure client, what it actually does:
>>>>
>>>>    - sends a first time the multicast/broadcast frame, and re-send it
>>>>    in an encapsulated unicast frame to the WGB. It allows the frame to be
>>>>    acknowledged by the WGB.
>>>>    - allows the WGB, which is normally treated as a wireless client,
>>>>    to associate to an infrastructure only AP
>>>>
>>>> In your configuration, this is weird the WGB can't get an IP address.
>>>> You say the association works fine, but the DHCP Discover isn't received by
>>>> the DHCP server. If it didn't work with a static IP address, I would think
>>>> something is missing in your configuration.
>>>>
>>>>  By any chance, were you using the authentication network-eap method
>>>> to associate, or only authentication open eap. I think network-eap (Cisco
>>>> proprietary) is a requirement when using an infrastructure mode.
>>>>
>>>>  Andre.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-02-06 Jay Killion (jakillio) <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi all -
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm working on WB2 lab 3 and the following requirement was given for
>>>>> an autonomous WGB, "Ensure that the association is reliable."  I thought
>>>>> the question was looking for me to configure "infrastructure client" on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> root AP since CCO documentation says to do this for "increased
>>>>> reliability".  Turns out that wasn't what the lab was looking for, but it
>>>>> did bring up an interesting result - no DHCP even though the WGB 
>>>>> associated
>>>>> without any issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The other requirement for this task was to have the WGB receive it's
>>>>> IP address via DHCP.  I couldn't for the life of me figure out why DHCP
>>>>> wasn't working, as my debugs showed the AP sending them but never getting 
>>>>> a
>>>>> reply (or being seen by the DHCP server).  Even if I configured a static 
>>>>> IP
>>>>> address for the BVI, pings still wouldn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I finally looked at the answer to see what I was missing and noticed
>>>>> IPX didn't use "infrastructure client" as part of their solution.  I
>>>>> removed that piece and everything immediately started working.  I've read
>>>>> what "infrastructure client" does - reliably deliver multicast and ARP's,
>>>>> but I don't see why this broke the ping / DHCP from the WGB.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Any insight?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks
>>>>> Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S
>>>>>
>>>>>
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