I can't find a specific bug either for our code, but Andre's certainly seems to 
match.

Is it fair to assume that considering how long this version of the lab has been 
out, we wouldn't be asked to configure something like this?  I would hope that 
items broken by bugs would have been vetted out by this point.

Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S

From: Jeff Rensink <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Sunday, February 9, 2014 9:38 AM
To: Andre Aubet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Jay Killion <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability

I'm getting skunked trying to get any results in the bug search tool.  But I'm 
guessing that's what we are seeing here.  So evidently in our lab code, if 
infrastructure-client is needed, we need to have the WGB SSID using the VLAN 
associated with bridge-group 1.

I'd be curious to see if the same behavior is exhibited in 15.x code.


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On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Andre Aubet 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi all,
Found this bug: https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCef04592

This is not exactly the same behavior we have, not even the same release, but 
the main condition is met: WGB associates to a non-native VLAN on an AP1230 
(...) Removing the infrastructure-client command or downgrading to 12.2(13)JA4 
restores connectivity

This bug has never been fixed. However, it would prove the 
infrastructure-client command actually messes with the bridge behavior.

Due to an electrical maintenance this week-end, I won't be able to try and 
reproduce this issue, and my lab is shut :-(

But in my previous tests, I wasn't exactly in the same conditions than Jay. I 
always kept consistency across the wireless link (using either one vlan with 
access port on each side of the link, and then two vlans with trunk port on 
both sides).

Andre.

2014-02-07 23:52 GMT+01:00 Jeff Rensink 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

OK, further info that may be a clue as to the issue.

When I look at my switch port behind the WGB, I'm getting interesting STP 
message.  It's just a standard access port in VL 17.  The switch port on AAP is 
a trunk port with a native VL of 110.

Without the infra-client command, STP is all good on my WGB port.  Once I turn 
on infra-client on AAP1, I get the following logs on the switch connected to 
the WGB.

*Mar  1 08:01:27.454: %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR: Received BPDU with 
inconsistent peer vlan id 110 on FastEthernet0/2 VLAN17.
*Mar  1 08:01:27.454: %SPANTREE-2-BLOCK_PVID_LOCAL: Blocking FastEthernet0/2 on 
VLAN0017. Inconsistent local vlan.

So it appears that something is going on with the bridging on AAP1 once the 
infra-client command goes into effect.  Best I can tell, traffic from the WGB 
going to the root is being dropped off on VL17 correctly.  That is evidenced by 
the DHCP debugging showing an offer on VL 17 on the DHCP server.  But it 
appears that VL110 traffic is being sent to the WGB on the reverse direction 
instead of VL 17 traffic.  That would explain why even a static IP isn't 
working and the weird STP logs.

Is there a bug surrounding this feature in our code?  I'll try and start 
looking.


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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jeff Rensink 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is quite interesting... I've been playing around with this and I'm 
replicating Jay's behavior.  I even wrote up AAP1's config from scratch as I 
would do it on my own and still see the same thing.  I see the DHCP request 
making it to the server, but the response evidently never makes it back with 
the infrastructure-client command enabled.  Here are a few things that I've 
tried.


  *   On AAP2, I've tried all flavors of the WGB multicast mode with no change 
in behavior
  *   I tried making VLAN 17 the native VLAN on AAP1 with no change in behavior
     *   Tried making VL 17 native on just the radio interface as well as both 
the radio and the ethernet port
  *   I set both the VLAN 17 interface on both the radio and ethernet port to 
be the native VLAN AND also assigned bridge-group 1 to the VL17 sub-interfaces 
and then AAP2 pulled an IP address.  Of course this put AAP1's BVI on VL 17 as 
well.

So thus far, it seems to only work across bridge group 1 on AAP1 when the 
infrastructure-client command is enabled.  At least in my testing.


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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jay Killion (jakillio) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hey Andre -

Attached are the configs from the two AP's (AAP 1 is the root, 2 is the WGB).  
I just tried it again with the exact same results.  WGB will associate without 
any issue, but no DHCP (and if you assign a static, it won't ping).  Just 
remove 'infrastructure client' from the root and things will immediately start 
working.

I'm certainly interested to see what you find.

Thanks -
Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S

From: Andre Aubet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Jay Killion <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Jason Boyers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability

Ok, I just tried to configure the whole thing:

  *   authentication open eap + authentication network-eap
  *   radius-server local on root AP
  *   DHCP server on core switch behind AP
  *   infrastructure-client on AP
  *   WGB using dot1x profile to authenticate on root AP
  *   DHCP client configured on WGB BVI1

And all works fine. I added vlans in the WGB to act as a trunk link, and I can 
ping many clients behind my WGB in different vlans.

I'm sure there is a specific command interacting with the infrastructure-client 
that made your association/authentication fail.
Unless the radio was buggy, and when you removed the infrastructure-client 
command, if forced the radio interface to reset.


2014-02-06 Andre Aubet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Jay,

Can you share your full configuration for the two APs? I just tried myself to 
configure a WGB using infrastructure-client on the root AP, but it works great.

Andre.


2014-02-06 Jay Killion (jakillio) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
No, I just used "station-role workgroup-bridge" configured.  But you make a 
great point, it's good to try the different options together to find out what 
breaks what.


From: Jason Boyers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 8:19 AM
To: Jay Killion <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Andre Aubet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability

On the WGB, do you have "station-role workgroup-bridge multicast mode client" 
configured?  That is incompatible with the "infrastructure client" command on 
the root side.  I found it helpful to go through the different combinations 
("station-role workgroup-bridge" with and without the various multicast mode 
commands, with and without infrastructure client, and such) to ensure how 
things will and will not work.  There are some combinations that simply won't 
pass traffic.

Jason Boyers, CCIE #26024 (Wireless)
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On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jay Killion (jakillio) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hey Andre -

Yes, the full requirement was, "Ensure that the association reliable. So the AP 
disassociates clients only many packets are lost. Use the maximum reliable 
setting for the association to stay up.".  Given that the word "reliable" and 
"reliability" are used 7 times in the CCO WGB documentation and every single 
one of them are in the section on "infrastructure client", I interpreted the 
requirement as wanting both "packet retries" and "infrastructure client".  But 
anyways…

Yes, I was using both "auth open" and "auth eap" for the SSID.  The WGB would 
associate and authenticate every time without any issue, even after rebooting 
both sides.  The instant I removed "infrastructure client" from the root side, 
without any further changes, the WGB side immediately received DHCP and pings 
started working.

I'm still not sure why it wouldn't work with "infrastructure client", but good 
to know for the future.


From: Andre Aubet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 1:50 AM
To: Jay Killion <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability

Hi Jay,

You really met an interesting behavior here!!!

I just read the complete lab requirement, it says:
Ensure that the association reliable. So the AP disassociates clients only many 
packets are lost. Use the maximum reliable setting for the association to stay 
up.

For this, I would have used the packet retries command I think. It allows the 
client entry to be removed only after a specified number of missed 802.11 
packets (maximum being 127 I think).

About the infrastructure client, what it actually does:

  *   sends a first time the multicast/broadcast frame, and re-send it in an 
encapsulated unicast frame to the WGB. It allows the frame to be acknowledged 
by the WGB.
  *   allows the WGB, which is normally treated as a wireless client, to 
associate to an infrastructure only AP

In your configuration, this is weird the WGB can't get an IP address. You say 
the association works fine, but the DHCP Discover isn't received by the DHCP 
server. If it didn't work with a static IP address, I would think something is 
missing in your configuration.

By any chance, were you using the authentication network-eap method to 
associate, or only authentication open eap. I think network-eap (Cisco 
proprietary) is a requirement when using an infrastructure mode.

Andre.


2014-02-06 Jay Killion (jakillio) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hi all -

I'm working on WB2 lab 3 and the following requirement was given for an 
autonomous WGB, "Ensure that the association is reliable."  I thought the 
question was looking for me to configure "infrastructure client" on the root AP 
since CCO documentation says to do this for "increased reliability".  Turns out 
that wasn't what the lab was looking for, but it did bring up an interesting 
result – no DHCP even though the WGB associated without any issue.

The other requirement for this task was to have the WGB receive it's IP address 
via DHCP.  I couldn't for the life of me figure out why DHCP wasn't working, as 
my debugs showed the AP sending them but never getting a reply (or being seen 
by the DHCP server).  Even if I configured a static IP address for the BVI, 
pings still wouldn't work.

I finally looked at the answer to see what I was missing and noticed IPX didn't 
use "infrastructure client" as part of their solution.  I removed that piece 
and everything immediately started working.  I've read what "infrastructure 
client" does – reliably deliver multicast and ARP's, but I don't see why this 
broke the ping / DHCP from the WGB.

Any insight?

Thanks
Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S


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