I'm getting skunked trying to get any results in the bug search tool.  But
I'm guessing that's what we are seeing here.  So evidently in our lab code,
if infrastructure-client is needed, we need to have the WGB SSID using the
VLAN associated with bridge-group 1.

I'd be curious to see if the same behavior is exhibited in 15.x code.

Regards,



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On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Andre Aubet <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Found this bug: https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCef04592
>
> This is not exactly the same behavior we have, not even the same release,
> but the main condition is met: WGB associates to a non-native VLAN on an
> AP1230 (...) Removing the infrastructure-client command or downgrading to
> 12.2(13)JA4 restores connectivity
>
> This bug has never been fixed. However, it would prove the
> infrastructure-client command actually messes with the bridge behavior.
>
> Due to an electrical maintenance this week-end, I won't be able to try and
> reproduce this issue, and my lab is shut :-(
>
> But in my previous tests, I wasn't exactly in the same conditions than
> Jay. I always kept consistency across the wireless link (using either one
> vlan with access port on each side of the link, and then two vlans with
> trunk port on both sides).
>
> Andre.
>
> 2014-02-07 23:52 GMT+01:00 Jeff Rensink <[email protected]>:
>
> OK, further info that may be a clue as to the issue.
>>
>> When I look at my switch port behind the WGB, I'm getting interesting STP
>> message.  It's just a standard access port in VL 17.  The switch port on
>> AAP is a trunk port with a native VL of 110.
>>
>> Without the infra-client command, STP is all good on my WGB port.  Once I
>> turn on infra-client on AAP1, I get the following logs on the switch
>> connected to the WGB.
>>
>> *Mar  1 08:01:27.454: %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR: Received BPDU with
>> inconsistent peer vlan id 110 on FastEthernet0/2 VLAN17.
>> *Mar  1 08:01:27.454: %SPANTREE-2-BLOCK_PVID_LOCAL: Blocking
>> FastEthernet0/2 on VLAN0017. Inconsistent local vlan.
>>
>> So it appears that something is going on with the bridging on AAP1 once
>> the infra-client command goes into effect.  Best I can tell, traffic from
>> the WGB going to the root is being dropped off on VL17 correctly.  That is
>> evidenced by the DHCP debugging showing an offer on VL 17 on the DHCP
>> server.  But it appears that VL110 traffic is being sent to the WGB on the
>> reverse direction instead of VL 17 traffic.  That would explain why even a
>> static IP isn't working and the weird STP logs.
>>
>> Is there a bug surrounding this feature in our code?  I'll try and start
>> looking.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jeff Rensink <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> This is quite interesting... I've been playing around with this and I'm
>>> replicating Jay's behavior.  I even wrote up AAP1's config from scratch as
>>> I would do it on my own and still see the same thing.  I see the DHCP
>>> request making it to the server, but the response evidently never makes it
>>> back with the infrastructure-client command enabled.  Here are a few things
>>> that I've tried.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - On AAP2, I've tried all flavors of the WGB multicast mode with no
>>>    change in behavior
>>>    - I tried making VLAN 17 the native VLAN on AAP1 with no change in
>>>    behavior
>>>       - Tried making VL 17 native on just the radio interface as well
>>>       as both the radio and the ethernet port
>>>    - I set both the VLAN 17 interface on both the radio and ethernet
>>>    port to be the native VLAN *AND *also assigned bridge-group 1 to the
>>>    VL17 sub-interfaces and then AAP2 pulled an IP address.  Of course this 
>>> put
>>>    AAP1's BVI on VL 17 as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> So thus far, it seems to only work across bridge group 1 on AAP1 when
>>> the infrastructure-client command is enabled.  At least in my testing.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jay Killion (jakillio) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Hey Andre -
>>>>
>>>>  Attached are the configs from the two AP's (AAP 1 is the root, 2 is
>>>> the WGB).  I just tried it again with the exact same results.  WGB will
>>>> associate without any issue, but no DHCP (and if you assign a static, it
>>>> won't ping).  Just remove 'infrastructure client' from the root and things
>>>> will immediately start working.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm certainly interested to see what you find.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks -
>>>> Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S
>>>>
>>>>   From: Andre Aubet <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:28 AM
>>>> To: Jay Killion <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: Jason Boyers <[email protected]>, "
>>>> [email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability
>>>>
>>>>   Ok, I just tried to configure the whole thing:
>>>>
>>>>    - authentication open eap + authentication network-eap
>>>>    - radius-server local on root AP
>>>>    - DHCP server on core switch behind AP
>>>>    - infrastructure-client on AP
>>>>    - WGB using dot1x profile to authenticate on root AP
>>>>    - DHCP client configured on WGB BVI1
>>>>
>>>> And all works fine. I added vlans in the WGB to act as a trunk link,
>>>> and I can ping many clients behind my WGB in different vlans.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm sure there is a specific command interacting with the
>>>> infrastructure-client that made your association/authentication fail.
>>>> Unless the radio was buggy, and when you removed the
>>>> infrastructure-client command, if forced the radio interface to reset.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-02-06 Andre Aubet <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> Jay,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Can you share your full configuration for the two APs? I just tried
>>>>> myself to configure a WGB using infrastructure-client on the root AP, but
>>>>> it works great.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Andre.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-02-06 Jay Killion (jakillio) <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  No, I just used "station-role workgroup-bridge" configured.  But
>>>>>> you make a great point, it's good to try the different options together 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find out what breaks what.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   From: Jason Boyers <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 8:19 AM
>>>>>> To: Jay Killion <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Cc: Andre Aubet <[email protected]>, "
>>>>>> [email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On the WGB, do you have "station-role workgroup-bridge multicast
>>>>>> mode client" configured?  That is incompatible with the "infrastructure
>>>>>> client" command on the root side.  I found it helpful to go through the
>>>>>> different combinations ("station-role workgroup-bridge" with and without
>>>>>> the various multicast mode commands, with and without infrastructure
>>>>>> client, and such) to ensure how things will and will not work.  There are
>>>>>> some combinations that simply won't pass traffic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Boyers, CCIE #26024 (Wireless)
>>>>>> Blog: netboyers.wordpress.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jay Killion (jakillio) <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hey Andre -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yes, the full requirement was, "Ensure that the association
>>>>>>> reliable. So the AP disassociates clients only many packets are lost. 
>>>>>>> Use
>>>>>>> the maximum reliable setting for the association to stay up.".  Given 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> the word "reliable" and "reliability" are used 7 times in the CCO WGB
>>>>>>> documentation and *every single one* of them are in the section on
>>>>>>> "infrastructure client", I interpreted the requirement as wanting both
>>>>>>> "packet retries" and "infrastructure client".  But anyways...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yes, I was using both "auth open" and "auth eap" for the SSID.
>>>>>>>  The WGB would associate and authenticate every time without any issue,
>>>>>>> even after rebooting both sides.  The instant I removed "infrastructure
>>>>>>> client" from the root side, without any further changes, the WGB side
>>>>>>> immediately received DHCP and pings started working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm still not sure why it wouldn't work with "infrastructure
>>>>>>> client", but good to know for the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   From: Andre Aubet <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 1:50 AM
>>>>>>> To: Jay Killion <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Autonomous - Reliability
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi Jay,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  You really met an interesting behavior here!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I just read the complete lab requirement, it says:
>>>>>>>  Ensure that the association reliable. So the AP disassociates
>>>>>>> clients only many packets are lost. Use the maximum reliable setting for
>>>>>>> the association to stay up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  For this, I would have used the packet retries command I think. It
>>>>>>> allows the client entry to be removed only after a specified number of
>>>>>>> missed 802.11 packets (maximum being 127 I think).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  About the infrastructure client, what it actually does:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - sends a first time the multicast/broadcast frame, and re-send
>>>>>>>    it in an encapsulated unicast frame to the WGB. It allows the frame 
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>    acknowledged by the WGB.
>>>>>>>    - allows the WGB, which is normally treated as a wireless
>>>>>>>    client, to associate to an infrastructure only AP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your configuration, this is weird the WGB can't get an IP
>>>>>>> address. You say the association works fine, but the DHCP Discover isn't
>>>>>>> received by the DHCP server. If it didn't work with a static IP 
>>>>>>> address, I
>>>>>>> would think something is missing in your configuration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  By any chance, were you using the authentication network-eap
>>>>>>> method to associate, or only authentication open eap. I think 
>>>>>>> network-eap
>>>>>>> (Cisco proprietary) is a requirement when using an infrastructure mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Andre.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-02-06 Jay Killion (jakillio) <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi all -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I'm working on WB2 lab 3 and the following requirement was given
>>>>>>>> for an autonomous WGB, "Ensure that the association is reliable."  I
>>>>>>>> thought the question was looking for me to configure "infrastructure
>>>>>>>> client" on the root AP since CCO documentation says to do this for
>>>>>>>> "increased reliability".  Turns out that wasn't what the lab was 
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>> for, but it did bring up an interesting result - no DHCP even though 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> WGB associated without any issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  The other requirement for this task was to have the WGB receive
>>>>>>>> it's IP address via DHCP.  I couldn't for the life of me figure out why
>>>>>>>> DHCP wasn't working, as my debugs showed the AP sending them but never
>>>>>>>> getting a reply (or being seen by the DHCP server).  Even if I 
>>>>>>>> configured a
>>>>>>>> static IP address for the BVI, pings still wouldn't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I finally looked at the answer to see what I was missing and
>>>>>>>> noticed IPX didn't use "infrastructure client" as part of their 
>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>  I removed that piece and everything immediately started working.  I've
>>>>>>>> read what "infrastructure client" does - reliably deliver multicast and
>>>>>>>> ARP's, but I don't see why this broke the ping / DHCP from the WGB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Any insight?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thanks
>>>>>>>> Jay Killion, CCIE #17873 R/S
>>>>>>>>
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