Alright, alright,
I should thank Eugene for being such a good sport. And I should also
apologize for all the work I just created for him!
I fully appreciate all the years and years of effort and struggle that
has gone into making ccp4i and other crystallographic GUIs the
accessible tools that they are today. I think these efforts should
continue, and we should all send Martin Noble one of those letters he needs.
But, when it comes to GUIs, I have always found them counterproductive.
In my humble opinion, the purpose of computers and other machines is to
DO work for me, not create work for me, and I already have enough
buttons to push each day. This is why my favorite command-line programs
are things like "xautomation", "xse" and a tcl extension called "cwind"
that lets you send mouse clicks and keystrokes into a Windoze machine
from a tcl script. Comes in really handy for those late-night dialog
boxes that always seem to pop up at 4am and would otherwise generate a
user-support call because "X" has stopped working. Yes, I could SSH in,
open a tunnel through my firewall to an NX server and launch a vncviewer
within the NX session and then (eventually) click on the "OK" button.
But I'd rather just sleep through all that.
-James Holton
MAD Scientist
On 4/11/2013 9:34 AM, Jim Pflugrath wrote:
I think James gets to 'fight' like in the old game of rogue by
pressing the h, j, k, l keys on his keyboard (not a detachable one
either). While Eugene gets to use a modern game controller or a Wii.
Ooops, game is already over and James has lost.
Jim
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*From:* CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Felix
Frolow [mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il]
*Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:25 AM
*To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
*Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Update victim of own success
I would serve as a second in this duel, but I respect very much both
engaged is this duel…
Drop you pistols or swords !!!!!
:-)
Dr Felix Frolow
Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology, Department of
Molecular Microbiology and Biotechnology
Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel
Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor
e-mail: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il <mailto:mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il>
Tel: ++972-3640-8723
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On Apr 11, 2013, at 18:46 , eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
<mailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
That's really hard. Duel?
Eugene
On 11 Apr 2013, at 16:32, James Holton wrote:
CCP4 has a GUI?
-James Holton
MAD Scientist
On 4/11/2013 5:17 AM, eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
<mailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
Sorry that this was unclear. We assume that updater is used
primarily from ccp4i, where nothing changed (and why it should be
used from command line at all ?:)). The name was changed because it
is reserved in Windows, which caused lots of troubles. Now it will
stay as is.
Eugene
On 11 Apr 2013, at 05:16, James Stroud wrote:
On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:30 PM, <eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
<mailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk><mailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk>>
<eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
<mailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk><mailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk>>
wrote:
No, it got renamed to ccp4um :) That should have been written in
update descriptions, was it not?
There was only one mention of "ccp4um" that I could find in all
update descriptions that I found (6.3.0-020). I only figured out
what information was trying to be communicated because of your
message (see attachment).
James
<um-what.png>
On 11 Apr 2013, at 03:54, James Stroud wrote:
Hello All,
I downloaded a crispy new version of CCP4 and ran update until the
update update script disappeared. Is the reason that CCP4 has
reached its final update?
James
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